Another fuel system setup question - fuel / water filter before or after mech pump?
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So what micron level is really necessary for the big Holley 6-valve pumps and a Holley carburetor? Basically you have a set of rubber fireplace bellows pumping fuel through a garden hose up to a coffee can with holes poked in it sitting on top of the engine, right? 
Edit: Never mind - looks like that question was answered on page 2.

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Bud I ran the FST Performance setup before the pump which is a 4 micron. The pump pumped fuel like a garden hose. I know this because I was adjusting the valves one time and I had to take of the hose at the fuel rail to get the valve cover off. The stingers in my boat are like a grid system (balsa) it has 12x12 square boxes about 12" deep. Hit the starter button a few times to turn the motor over and I could smell fuel (thinking to myself that's'a strange) so I thought what the heck hold the starter button and see if I can see a leak. Yeah the fuel line was disconnected laying in the stringer box which has a drain hole and a couple revolutions on the motor the box was 1/4 of the way full. At that point I realized how stupid I was but at the same time I couldn't believe how much fuel the pump would move.
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OK, this looks like the plan:
1/2 inch line up to the fuel/water filter head, with a WIX 33244 filter on it - that one has a 19 micron rating and flows 12-15 GPM. 1/2 inch line from there to the Holley 6-valve pump. Probably #8 AN line up to the fuel pressure gauge, splitting off to #6 up to the carb.
Do I need some kind of filter before the fuel pressure gauge? If so, is there something that will just screw in-line at that point?
1/2 inch line up to the fuel/water filter head, with a WIX 33244 filter on it - that one has a 19 micron rating and flows 12-15 GPM. 1/2 inch line from there to the Holley 6-valve pump. Probably #8 AN line up to the fuel pressure gauge, splitting off to #6 up to the carb.
Do I need some kind of filter before the fuel pressure gauge? If so, is there something that will just screw in-line at that point?
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I agree that the mechanical pump probably doesn't need one, but I thought the electric ones were a lot more sensitive to crud going through them. That's basically what my question was about, in the unlikely scenario where I go back to electric.
Edit: Oops - Now I see that you were replying to my original question, not my more recent one.
Edit: Oops - Now I see that you were replying to my original question, not my more recent one.

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Something else to consider. Micron ratings do not depict flow. You can have a 10 micron filter that flows more fuel, or say less restriction, than another brand/style 100 micron filter.
I dont have engineering numbers for you Budman, but all I can tell you, is I've been running 800HP blown with twin 850's, with a -10 line from tank to 33405 filter , then to the inlet of a six valve holley pump with a -10,, and #8 up to the carbs where it splits into 3/8 hard lines. I have friends with same setup that has supported over 900hp blown.
I think you'll be just fine with that setup on your 575hp N/A single carb engine.
I dont have engineering numbers for you Budman, but all I can tell you, is I've been running 800HP blown with twin 850's, with a -10 line from tank to 33405 filter , then to the inlet of a six valve holley pump with a -10,, and #8 up to the carbs where it splits into 3/8 hard lines. I have friends with same setup that has supported over 900hp blown.
I think you'll be just fine with that setup on your 575hp N/A single carb engine.
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Something else to consider. Micron ratings do not depict flow. You can have a 10 micron filter that flows more fuel, or say less restriction, than another brand/style 100 micron filter.
I dont have engineering numbers for you Budman, but all I can tell you, is I've been running 800HP blown with twin 850's, with a -10 line from tank to 33405 filter , then to the inlet of a six valve holley pump with a -10,, and #8 up to the carbs where it splits into 3/8 hard lines. I have friends with same setup that has supported over 900hp blown.
I think you'll be just fine with that setup on your 575hp N/A single carb engine.
I dont have engineering numbers for you Budman, but all I can tell you, is I've been running 800HP blown with twin 850's, with a -10 line from tank to 33405 filter , then to the inlet of a six valve holley pump with a -10,, and #8 up to the carbs where it splits into 3/8 hard lines. I have friends with same setup that has supported over 900hp blown.
I think you'll be just fine with that setup on your 575hp N/A single carb engine.
Also, should I stick an extra filter in after the pump?
I appreciate all the help!
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Thanks MT! I have an existing #6 line that went from the pump outlet up to the fuel pressure gauge / split. Was planning to step up a size here, but now wondering if that Holley pump would be able to push enough fuel through the #8 line. What do you think?
Also, should I stick an extra filter in after the pump?
I appreciate all the help!
Also, should I stick an extra filter in after the pump?
I appreciate all the help!
I would strongly consider the filters at the carb fuel bowls, like these. Everybody likes throwing them in the trash because they think they are a restriction. As long as they are changed on a regular basis, they will move more flow than the .110 needle can.
http://allcarbs.com/detail.php?pid=7...&ctgn=61&stt=0
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Budman, those little filter thingy's I am talking about....you may find local under any of these part #s, from oreillys, advance, autozone, napa, etc.
AC Delco GF455
Holley 162-500
Fram CG13
Wix 33050
Purolator F10021
AC Delco GF455
Holley 162-500
Fram CG13
Wix 33050
Purolator F10021
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Thanks!
Edit: Never mind Mild, answered my own question!
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hl...FQEcaQodix0A4Q
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Hmmm, the Summit listing says that these things also fit Q-jet inlets. Logic would have it that it would go the other way as well. I have a bunch of the little screen filters from various Q-jet rebuilds. I might see if one of these would work. I would think that they would flow about as well as the metal filters.


