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Old 07-21-2015 | 07:29 AM
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I have a Holley 9022 800 CFM carb on a 439 cid BBC...

When the secondaries start to open it goes RICH.....

I have 75 jets in the primaries and 86 in the secondaries...(no secondary power valve)

A/F ratio on just the primaries is 12.8:1 cruising at 3000 RPM.

A/F ratio is 12.5:1 at full throttle.4800 rpm (prop is a bit too big)

At 4000 RPM, when the secondaries are just partially open, the A/F ratio is 10.5:1... Any way I can tune this out ?



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Old 07-21-2015 | 07:35 AM
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yes.install a power valve with a lower number so it does not open as soon.

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Old 07-21-2015 | 07:39 AM
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would you want a lower number?
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Old 07-21-2015 | 07:42 AM
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Very possible ^^^what he said^^^^ - this can be determined by using a vacuum gauge in accordance with the wideband A/F set up.

It could also be:

Is this exactly when the secondaries are starting to open ? If you leave throttle there for a few seconds or more, does the A/F ratio come back up a little ?

Reason for asking is that since this is a DP, the secondaries have a accelerator pump also. As you know, the pump shot starts right as it's throttles are being opened.
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Originally Posted by fbc25el
would you want a lower number?
yes,i just woke up so not thinking yet.i will fix my post.
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Originally Posted by mike tkach
yes,i just woke up so not thinking yet.i will fix my post.
You need a Java Shot, not a Pump Shot. LOL.
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Old 07-21-2015 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SB
Very possible ^^^what he said^^^^ - this can be determined by using a vacuum gauge in accordance with the wideband A/F set up.



Is this exactly when the secondaries are starting to open ? If you leave throttle there for a few seconds or more, does the A/F ratio come back up a little ?

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It stays constant at 10.5:1 while cruising.. I would estimate that the secandaries are open about 1/4 of the way at this point...
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Old 07-21-2015 | 11:20 AM
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Don't estimate. Put a gopro over it or mark your hand throttle level where sec are just starting to crack open.
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Originally Posted by SB
Don't estimate. Put a gopro over it or mark your hand throttle level where sec are just starting to crack open.
I had the hatch off and was watching it.. 3000 RPM is definitely when the secondaries just start to open...

I was estimating the amount of secondary opening at 4000 rpm....
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Old 07-21-2015 | 03:32 PM
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Sounds like you need to go with a smaller secondary air bleed and jet. If I am recalling correctly air bleeds tend to add a greater percentage of air with increased cfm. So the Air bleed is giving you a rich to leaner condition as air flow increase through the carb. You need to size the air bleed so AR is constant then jet accordingly.
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