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Old 10-26-2015 | 10:38 AM
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and you have a few bolts/nuts left over.
funny how that always happens yet it runs perfectly! LOL
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Old 10-26-2015 | 11:26 AM
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First head showed up today, rest of the goodies should be here tomorrow. A couple pictures:

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Old 10-26-2015 | 01:23 PM
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Couple more pics. I pulled one intake and one exhaust valve and measured guide clearance. .0015" on the intake, .0017" on the exhaust. I'm happy with that. Checked installed height and was satisfied with that as well.

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Old 10-26-2015 | 02:35 PM
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What are you doing PCM-wise for the first round of upgrades?
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Old 10-26-2015 | 04:35 PM
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According to Raylar, with the HO ECM I can just raise my base fuel pressure to 51 and that is all that is needed. I don't really love that idea because now I am running an additional 8 psi of fuel pressure at idle, surely that is going to richen things up. I called Whipple, but that call really didn't get me anywhere, I am pretty sure I was talking to somebody who was just willing to sell me a canned stage 2 tune. I don't really want that either. I tried to explain that but didn't get very far. I want to keep my stock rev limiter and I don't want to only run 91 octane either. What I want is a calibration that is optimized for the Raylar heads and cam, that maybe tweaks timing for the better heads but still allows me to run 89 octane. Next time I talk to Raylar I am going to see if they have somebody better to talk to at Whipple than whoever it was I was talking to.
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Old 10-26-2015 | 04:42 PM
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51psi sounds kind of high I think I am at 46 (I cant remember though). Keep in mind you will be close to 10 to 1 so running 89 will be tight but might be possible. The whipple stage 2 may allow you to run 89. I have been running 89 dock fuel for 2 years. I have a custom whipple HO 600 program that i assume is a stge 2 or more.

Mine have never pinged.


What headers will you be running? An O2 sensor might be in your future....
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Old 10-26-2015 | 04:44 PM
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Looking good $hitbird!
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Old 10-26-2015 | 04:50 PM
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BTW are they the ported heads?
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Old 10-26-2015 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta
51psi sounds kind of high I think I am at 46 (I cant remember though). Keep in mind you will be close to 10 to 1 so running 89 will be tight but might be possible. The whipple stage 2 may allow you to run 89. I have been running 89 dock fuel for 2 years. I have a custom whipple HO 600 program that i assume is a stge 2 or more.

Mine have never pinged.


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89 isn't a problem to find, but I don't think there is a marina local to me selling 91 anymore, so it's kind of a problem. I would assume your base pressure is lower because you are custom tuned, but to keep from flashing the PCM you have to raise base fuel pressure. Maybe that will work perfect, but a speed density system running higher than stock fuel pressure when volumetric efficiency isn't higher than the previous setup (idle) will end up richer. I will see how it runs but I am really anal about little stuff like that so it will probably drive me crazy. I really just need somebody at Whipple who is willing to hear me out for what I have and what I want, I am sure it is something they have done before and they probably have a map made already.

And the heads I have are the full CNC ported heads, not the extreme ported version they have, as that is really overkill for what i am doing.

This year I am running the stock exhaust but will be extending the risers about 12 inches. Next year it is a toss up between the CMI sport tubes or the Dana flow torque exhaust. I have plenty of time to decide.
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Old 10-26-2015 | 06:26 PM
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Looking good $hitbird!
Thanks peckerhead!
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