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Full Force 10-14-2015 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by bck (Post 4366105)
I remember you saying they were tight. What did your valve stem and guide diameters measure out to? Stem issue or guide issue?

If your asking me .001 intake .0012 exhaust out of the box, now .0020 intake and .0022 exh

horsepower1 10-14-2015 01:52 PM

WAY more than necessary, especially on the intakes, IMO.

Full Force 10-14-2015 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by horsepower1 (Post 4366142)
WAY more than necessary, especially on the intakes, IMO.

I set them upbthebwaybeverynotjer marine engine I ever had has been set up, I run my boat in cold water as early as April 40 degree water and want to make sure I have no issues. Last 2 sets of engines been the same over 10 years no issues. Now tight I have had issues...I did what I know works

horsepower1 10-14-2015 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4366154)
I set them upbthebwaybeverynotjer marine engine I ever had has been set up, I run my boat in cold water as early as April 40 degree water and want to make sure I have no issues. Last 2 sets of engines been the same over 10 years no issues. Now tight I have had issues...I did what I know works

That's fine, I'm just sayin... .0015-16 on the intakes is plenty, and .0018-<.0020 is plenty on the ex. I consider more than .002 "worn", but that's just me. Excessive guide clearance is like excessive cylinder clearance. Some guys like to run things "loose". Kind of a preference thing I guess.

Black Baja 10-14-2015 05:09 PM

My AFR 385 V2's were .0018 across the board on all 16. Had 4 checked in one shop and the rest in another everything was dead nuts the same. Both shops said the same thing. They had never seen a set of heads with everything so even across the board. I will get the Valve job checked on a Serdi in the next week or so to see what we have... Really for the money I paid for the complete heads I don't think I could have bought them bare then purchased the rest of the parts for that kind of money. If they need some extra work... Whatever. I'm happy with so far. T&D Steel shafts with .802 lift on the intake ended up with a great pattern on the valve. I'll let you guys in on the results of the valve job good or bad.

horsepower1 10-14-2015 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4366201)
My AFR 385 V2's were .0018 across the board on all 16. Had 4 checked in one shop and the rest in another everything was dead nuts the same. Both shops said the same thing. They had never seen a set of heads with everything so even across the board. I will get the Valve job checked on a Serdi in the next week or so to see what we have... Really for the money I paid for the complete heads I don't think I could have bought them bare then purchased the rest of the parts for that kind of money. If they need some extra work... Whatever. I'm happy with so far. T&D Steel shafts with .802 lift on the intake ended up with a great pattern on the valve. I'll let you guys in on the results of the valve job good or bad.

That would be a first for me. Very rarely do I see guide clearance on an AFR head much over .001". They used to be very consistent and straight, but something has changed lately and their guide work is not what it used to be. I think they changed guides, as well. Even with their tighter than ideal (for marine use) guides, I don't think you can get a better production head.

MILD THUNDER 10-14-2015 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4366201)
My AFR 385 V2's were .0018 across the board on all 16. Had 4 checked in one shop and the rest in another everything was dead nuts the same. Both shops said the same thing. They had never seen a set of heads with everything so even across the board. I will get the Valve job checked on a Serdi in the next week or so to see what we have... Really for the money I paid for the complete heads I don't think I could have bought them bare then purchased the rest of the parts for that kind of money. If they need some extra work... Whatever. I'm happy with so far. T&D Steel shafts with .802 lift on the intake ended up with a great pattern on the valve. I'll let you guys in on the results of the valve job good or bad.

Interesting. The few friends I have that bought new AFR bbc heads, did not see .0018 guide clearance. Not surprising to me, as AFR themselves say they come tighter than that, in their own literature....and the ones that were checked, were in fact, tighter than that. The disclaimer from their afr "dealer" was , "Afr used smaller stem sizes, so that measurement was innaccurate, and the guide clearance needs to be checked with AFR's supplied valve". Ummmm, if you bought complete heads, wouldn't standard procedure be, to measure the stem of the valve the heads came with!?? What valve did this dealer think they were measureing? A valve out of a 1985 buick that was on the shelf?

Valve Guide Clearance:
Our typical valve guide clearances are .0013”-.0016”. In some severe applications (nitrous, marine endurance racing, or blower usage) looser guides might be required. Check with your engine builder.


http://www.airflowresearch.com/installation.php

Black Baja 10-14-2015 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4366209)
Interesting. The few friends I have that bought new AFR bbc heads, did not see .0018 guide clearance. Not surprising to me, as AFR themselves say they come tighter than that, in their own literature....and the ones that were checked, were in fact, tighter than that. The disclaimer from their afr "dealer" was , "Afr used smaller stem sizes, so that measurement was innaccurate, and the guide clearance needs to be checked with AFR's supplied valve". Ummmm, if you bought complete heads, wouldn't standard procedure be, to measure the stem of the valve the heads came with!?? What valve did this dealer think they were measureing? A valve out of a 1985 buick that was on the shelf?

Valve Guide Clearance:
Our typical valve guide clearances are .0013”-.0016”. In some severe applications (nitrous, marine endurance racing, or blower usage) looser guides might be required. Check with your engine builder.


http://www.airflowresearch.com/installation.php

With a Sunnen gauge you have to set the tool up with the valves then you can measure the guides.

MILD THUNDER 10-14-2015 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4366219)
With a Sunnen gauge you have to set the tool up with the valves then you can measure the guides.

Right, so I'm not understanding the "afr valve size" thing?

Black Baja 10-14-2015 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4366226)
Right, so I'm not understanding the "afr valve size" thing?

Can't help you with that one.


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