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Panther 11-21-2016 10:06 AM

It was questioned on the last page if you were going to reuse your lifters and I would suggest NOT using them again. If the lifter was lofting it was hammering the sh!t out of the needle bearings.

I think I saw that you have SM exhaust? You can't get the valve covers off to re-check lash without pushing the manifold back. Something to consider... That was one of the main reasons I changed from solid to hydrualic a few years ago. Disassembling the exhaust to check lash once a year was too much of a PITA in my older age.

MILD THUNDER 11-21-2016 11:17 AM

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Heres an oso members afr heads, very little time on them.

Now would be a good time to upgrade valve seat materials Tim

getrdunn 11-21-2016 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4502717)
What r u thinking? SP?

I was wondering if SB was getting at SP = spring pressure. Either way or what.. What a pita!

14 apache 11-21-2016 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4502813)
Heres an oso members afr heads, very little time on them.

Now would be a good time to upgrade valve seat materials Tim

Should post that in the 665 tread
Amazes me that the head company's sell these knowing they are going in the marine environment. Don't think they want to cut the hard seats.

MILD THUNDER 11-21-2016 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by 14 apache (Post 4502823)
Should post that in the 665 tread
Amazes me that the head company's sell these knowing they are going in the marine environment. Don't think they want to cut the hard seats.

Thats my guess too. Prob easier/faster to machine them on the assembly line as well.

vintage chromoly 11-21-2016 12:58 PM

Tim, if you decide to take the advice on the seats, get the old man to take the heads to Kenny and have them done before he gets too far along on the port work so he can blend the seats back into the pocket.

Im sure you know the routine, but I'm just throwing it out there.

Full Force 11-21-2016 02:41 PM

I think Bill said one set is already done, I am about to chitcan the whole thing to be honest.....


Originally Posted by vintage chromoly (Post 4502844)
Tim, if you decide to take the advice on the seats, get the old man to take the heads to Kenny and have them done before he gets too far along on the port work so he can blend the seats back into the pocket.

Im sure you know the routine, but I'm just throwing it out there.


getrdunn 11-21-2016 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4502867)
I think Bill said one set is already done, I am about to chitcan the whole thing to be honest.....

Hang in there. That's something I'm sure you've heard over and over also but... When what's suppose to be fun turns into frustration and costly it sucks bad. I think we've all been there. I remember my partner grenaded a rod in his blown 38 right before selling it. We put a new set of 330's in it to sell and the very first time he put it in the water in traverse city to make sure it ran out ok he had some dude in his revved up sonic motioning him back out the channel to run. He still talks about it to this day 25 yrs later what a sick feeling that was. Knowing he'd get his azz kicked and couldn't do chit about it. Only thing that saved his day is I wasn't far behind and followed the guy out myself and took care of business.

Moral of the story is its all worth it in the long run. Although I envy stock guys who just have to check the oil I'm not one of them. Not many of us are or we wouldn't be here on this very site.

Full Force 11-21-2016 03:13 PM

Lifters are going back to Johnson for checking out and fixing any issues..

leaning towards hydraulic due to exhaust, but have not decided yet totally.


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 4502800)
It was questioned on the last page if you were going to reuse your lifters and I would suggest NOT using them again. If the lifter was lofting it was hammering the sh!t out of the needle bearings.

I think I saw that you have SM exhaust? You can't get the valve covers off to re-check lash without pushing the manifold back. Something to consider... That was one of the main reasons I changed from solid to hydrualic a few years ago. Disassembling the exhaust to check lash once a year was too much of a PITA in my older age.


Full Force 11-21-2016 03:16 PM

trying to as I donlt give up easy, I have way too much money already into engines that are nothing but a thorn in my side, good parts still not good, 40,000.00 later I stiull find more money needing spent... then some guys here say "pay a professional" well all the issues are found by them and also had issues so that's out the window, does not mean it's going to go well.... ask Frickstyle....

I really wish I kept my 420's and procharged them and all this would have never happened and parts would be MUCH cheaper if there was an issue... AND make MORE POWER... man do I have regrets... HUGE regrets..I make the money to spend, and will always, but this is getting old real fast.... may be a parts boat soon...

Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4502868)
Hang in there. That's something I'm sure you've heard over and over also but... When what's suppose to be fun turns into frustration and costly it sucks bad. I think we've all been there. I remember my partner grenaded a rod in his blown 38 right before selling it. We put a new set of 330's in it to sell and the very first time he put it in the water in traverse city to make sure it ran out ok he had some dude in his revved up sonic motioning him back out the channel to run. He still talks about it to this day 25 yrs later what a sick feeling that was. Knowing he'd get his azz kicked and couldn't do chit about it. Only thing that saved his day is I wasn't far behind and followed the guy out myself and took care of business.

Moral of the story is its all worth it in the long run. Although I envy stock guys who just have to check the oil I'm not one of them. Not many of us are or we wouldn't be here on this very site.



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