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Full Force 09-23-2016 08:00 PM

Curious to see results....


Originally Posted by jsand117 (Post 4484522)
I am a few weeks away from my 540's being finished. similar to Tim, Bob M. spec the cams and heads. afr 325 114 cc the cams are 242.2 664 on intake 247.1 656 on exhaust flat top JE pistons, merlin 3 blocks zero deck and the head gasket he set me up with from cometic is .027. I am running Nickerson 4150 on merlin single plane intakes. carbs flow 994 CFM. as soon as the engines are complete they are going to Nickerson for dyno and tune. I will be happy to provide the results here. I can find out from my builder what the final comp. ended up, our target was 9.8 :1. will post more info as I get it.


jsand117 09-23-2016 08:33 PM

Cam and Heads
 

Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4484523)
Zero decked, and .027 head gasket?:bestwishes:

like I said, I will post for sure where the final comp. ended up, think the pistons were 10 in the hole but will verify exact numbers. motors still with the builder.

Unlimited jd 09-23-2016 08:35 PM

Definitely won't be any carbon on those pistons

SB 09-23-2016 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Unlimited jd (Post 4484533)
Definitely won't be any carbon on those pistons

Diamonds.

SB 09-23-2016 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by jsand117 (Post 4484532)
like I said, I will post for sure where the final comp. ended up, think the pistons were 10 in the hole but will verify exact numbers. motors still with the builder.

Big difference !

Zero decked means piston is at the deck. Zero means zero.

Full Force - I'm going with 677 :party-smiley-048::bananalove:

Black Baja 09-23-2016 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4484538)
Big difference !

Zero decked means piston is at the deck. Zero means zero.

Full Force - I'm going with 677 :party-smiley-048::bananalove:

Never gonna happen on Nickersons dyno. After the first pull he's going to tell him the cam is all wrong and he has a guy down the street that custom grinds his cams for $500. His custom cams are actually $250 Erson cams... It will make 100hp more on his dyno with the custom Erson shelf grind.

Black Baja 09-23-2016 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4484523)
Zero decked, and .027 head gasket?:bestwishes:

Sounds like a small block.

Black Baja 09-23-2016 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by jsand117 (Post 4484522)
I am a few weeks away from my 540's being finished. similar to Tim, Bob M. spec the cams and heads. afr 325 114 cc the cams are 242.2 664 on intake 247.1 656 on exhaust flat top JE pistons, merlin 3 blocks zero deck and the head gasket he set me up with from cometic is .027. I am running Nickerson 4150 on merlin single plane intakes. carbs flow 994 CFM. as soon as the engines are complete they are going to Nickerson for dyno and tune. I will be happy to provide the results here. I can find out from my builder what the final comp. ended up, our target was 9.8 :1. will post more info as I get it.

Do yourself a favor and take a new Holley with you for the dyno session. They are worth 30hp over Nickersons best ported and polished carbs.

MILD THUNDER 09-23-2016 08:58 PM


Originally Posted by jsand117 (Post 4484532)
like I said, I will post for sure where the final comp. ended up, think the pistons were 10 in the hole but will verify exact numbers. motors still with the builder.

I'd be pretty thorough on the measurements, and certainly account for and measure piston rock. When I am putting together an engine, I measure the piston to deck height with a deck bridge and dial indicator after the shortblock is assembled. once those measurments are taken, THEN gaskets are ordered.

IMO, the benefits, do not outweigh the risks of playing with extremely tight quenches, on a bbc, unless you are building an all out competition engine. If the piston is at 0 deck, .027 is playing with fire, even with a steel rod. Staying in the .040-.060 range, is fine for a N/A build, and most forced induction builds.

I would imagine that Bob M, spec'd those gaskets, assuming the blocks were being zero decked. I don't know how anyone would know the specific blocks deck height, without physically measuring, if in fact, the block was anything other than zero deck. Unless they are virgin blocks from world products, but even then?

Crude Intentions 09-23-2016 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Black Baja (Post 4484543)
Never gonna happen on Nickersons dyno. After the first pull he's going to tell him the cam is all wrong and he has a guy down the street that custom grinds his cams for $500. His custom cams are actually $250 Erson cams... It will make 100hp more on his dyno with the custom Erson shelf grind.

Wouldn't be surprised. Most combos make more power when the madera cams are tossed.


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