Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > Technical > General Q & A
Why don't boats have multi-speed transmissions? >

Why don't boats have multi-speed transmissions?

Notices

Why don't boats have multi-speed transmissions?

Thread Tools
 
Old 11-15-2016 | 11:46 AM
  #1  
Thread Starter
Registered
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,888
Likes: 148
From: SF Bay Area
Default Why don't boats have multi-speed transmissions?

I can make some assumptions, but short of a V drive using an auto trans, why don't boats use multi speed transmissions?
Baja Rooster is offline  
Reply
Old 11-15-2016 | 12:19 PM
  #2  
Registered
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,465
Likes: 9
Default

I have seen videos and threads on high performance boats with 2 or 3 speed transmissions. They seem to be for slowing the high pitch props down around docks and idling speeds, and keeping a "peaky" race engine in the power band (I'm certainly no expert, just what I've seen and read).

For most boats, prop slip will allow a boat to come on plane and cruise at lower speeds, negating the need for a multiple speed transmission. If the boat will turn the correct wot rpms and come on plane reasonably, then why would you need a transmission?
Mr Maine is offline  
Reply
Old 11-15-2016 | 12:48 PM
  #3  
Thread Starter
Registered
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,888
Likes: 148
From: SF Bay Area
Default

I've kinda figured that you tune a engine and prop combo for top speed, and prop slip acts like a torque converter to a degree. I was curious if there's been much experimentation with it. I guess in a high enough performance setup you'd need a gear reduction for slower maneuvering.

My non boat owning friends always ask me this question but I never had a solid explanation.
Baja Rooster is offline  
Reply
Old 11-15-2016 | 01:33 PM
  #4  
Registered
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 996
Likes: 189
From: Red Oak, Texas
Default

Several years ago it was all the rage, racers used them to gear down for cornering and acceleration out of the corners, but I think they proved too "complicated" to use properly and just another complex item to fail under extreme race conditions. Some of the current racers may weigh in on this, but I think they are used anymore, and some governing bodies may have outlawed them.
CDShack is offline  
Reply
Old 11-15-2016 | 03:16 PM
  #5  
Registered
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,554
Likes: 3
From: Fredericksburg, Va
Default

Have one...21 Eliminator Daytona, factory B/B turbo 400, pretty cool to drive, manual shift, really dont use low gear..but is a V-drive

http://s227.photobucket.com/user/ezs...dscsr.jpg.html
ezstriper is offline  
Reply
Old 11-15-2016 | 03:26 PM
  #6  
Thread Starter
Registered
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 2,888
Likes: 148
From: SF Bay Area
Default

Originally Posted by ezstriper
Have one...21 Eliminator Daytona, factory B/B turbo 400, pretty cool to drive, manual shift, really dont use low gear..but is a V-drive

http://s227.photobucket.com/user/ezs...dscsr.jpg.html
One of my favorite lake boats ever. Those tunnel hulls are gorgeous and everybody knows what's up when you hit that key. It's been forever since I've been in a V drive. Can you actually feel it shift?

I never thought about it much but any final gearing is determined by the power available and torque needed and a transmission just reduces loads until you get to that point. On a heavy boat the prop just slips up to that point like a viscous coupler.
Baja Rooster is offline  
Reply
Old 11-15-2016 | 05:06 PM
  #7  
Registered
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 5,825
Likes: 612
From: Clarkston, Michigan
Default

A car can upshift and cruise at 80 mph at under 3,000 rpm. A boat has a much greater amount of drag and needs to be near it's peak output to maintain a high speed. Shift it up and it will just keep slowing down. Usually there is enough prop slip to get the boat on plane and moving.
thirdchildhood is offline  
Reply
Old 11-15-2016 | 08:08 PM
  #8  
Registered
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 165
Likes: 1
From: Baltimore, Maryland
Default

Back in the 80's Mercury tried it. They were designed for the heaver boats. They were junk and didn't ever work the way they were designed. B & M did a drop in replacement for the Mercury for a while. ZF did some 2 and 3 speeds for racing APBA outlawed them after about 2 years of guys racing with them. Usually only the unlimited budget teams had them. The ones from the other side of the globe. When Mercury racing came up with the #6 and guys aerated them to get slippage to get on plane that took of the problem to get a big heavy race boat on plane.
gofastboater is offline  
Reply
Old 11-15-2016 | 09:07 PM
  #9  
Registered
 
Joined: Aug 2013
Posts: 783
Likes: 0
From: Madison, Ms
Default

One of my favorite videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhG6JZpDAXQ
Mseuro is offline  
Reply
Old 11-16-2016 | 07:14 AM
  #10  
Knot 4 Me's Avatar
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 8,407
Likes: 797
From: Central IL
Default

I believe JD Onken (Don's son) ran heavily modified powerglides in his 32 Skater. Not sure who has the boat now but I've seen it in the Skaterfest pics recently.
Knot 4 Me is offline  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.