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01-16-2017 | 06:32 AM
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01-16-2017 | 09:03 AM
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The reason I dumped my reworked Pro Comp heads was guys telling me my seats will fall out, so that leads me to wonder why the off brand castings are as good if not better then dart, afr, edelbrock? I know my afr were heavier then pro comps, I was told due to material used... just something to look into.
01-16-2017 | 07:04 PM
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01-16-2017 | 07:39 PM
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Absolutely. I just saw on facebook, theres a guy from china, who has some castings that were copies of the afr heads. Suppsedly extremely cheap, and some guys have bought pallets of them, and said the castings were very clean.
While some may look at it as anti american, it could also go the other way. The big companies like dart and afr, have put a hige dent in the local machine shops income, by advertising bolt on ready quality. As you have said, the problem is, that just isnt the case.
With cheaper castings available, now the average consumer, can buy them, take them to their favorite head guy, and get a really nice performing and nice quality product, while still investing in our economy.
And before we get all high and mighty about the buy american thing, lets remember , the computer, cell phone, laptop, router, modem, and other things we utilize to be discussing this topic at the moment, are also made overseas ...
Same goes for most of the cranks and rods alot of us are running these days. Scat and eagle were supplying budget import cranks to the U.S. Then Callies was like F that, and came out with the compstar line. Which is a nice product. You think if scat and eagle never existed, callies would have randomly came out with an imported affordable crank option? Heck no. Competiton is what motivated them
Like Trump says, competition is good.
While some may look at it as anti american, it could also go the other way. The big companies like dart and afr, have put a hige dent in the local machine shops income, by advertising bolt on ready quality. As you have said, the problem is, that just isnt the case.
With cheaper castings available, now the average consumer, can buy them, take them to their favorite head guy, and get a really nice performing and nice quality product, while still investing in our economy.
And before we get all high and mighty about the buy american thing, lets remember , the computer, cell phone, laptop, router, modem, and other things we utilize to be discussing this topic at the moment, are also made overseas ...
Same goes for most of the cranks and rods alot of us are running these days. Scat and eagle were supplying budget import cranks to the U.S. Then Callies was like F that, and came out with the compstar line. Which is a nice product. You think if scat and eagle never existed, callies would have randomly came out with an imported affordable crank option? Heck no. Competiton is what motivated them
Like Trump says, competition is good.
01-16-2017 | 07:57 PM
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The problem with Chinese manufacturing is the lack of consistency. You get a good batch and next time a crappy batch. The QC can vary quite a bit.
This is not a knock on your decision to use these castings john. I get why you went this direction and the castings certainly look like decent stuff.
The competition of offshore offerings has compelled domestic manufacturers to compete to come close to the offshore price point and, I really believe that domestic quality has suffered because of this.
In general, I think the quality of a lot of goods has declined and I think globalization has contributed to this.
This is not a knock on your decision to use these castings john. I get why you went this direction and the castings certainly look like decent stuff.
The competition of offshore offerings has compelled domestic manufacturers to compete to come close to the offshore price point and, I really believe that domestic quality has suffered because of this.
In general, I think the quality of a lot of goods has declined and I think globalization has contributed to this.
01-16-2017 | 07:57 PM
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But to copy your product, have impoverished people working in bad working conditions make it, and then resell it in your own marketplace for 1/2 or more less using marketing that they copied your product ?
I'd stab'm in the eyeballs and then rip their cock off.
I'd stab'm in the eyeballs and then rip their cock off.
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01-16-2017 | 08:17 PM
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The problem with Chinese manufacturing is the lack of consistency. You get a good batch and next time a crappy batch. The QC can vary quite a bit.
This is not a knock on your decision to use these castings john. I get why you went this direction and the castings certainly look like decent stuff.
The competition of offshore offerings has compelled domestic manufacturers to compete to come close to the offshore price point and, I really believe that domestic quality has suffered because of this.
In general, I think the quality of a lot of goods has declined and I think globalization has contributed to this.
This is not a knock on your decision to use these castings john. I get why you went this direction and the castings certainly look like decent stuff.
The competition of offshore offerings has compelled domestic manufacturers to compete to come close to the offshore price point and, I really believe that domestic quality has suffered because of this.
In general, I think the quality of a lot of goods has declined and I think globalization has contributed to this.
In regards to decision on heads is more of an experiment. If they weren't what they claimed to be I wouldn't bat an eye having ordering US head. Problem is though you face the same problems with them also. Ive had to send darts back for replacement, Read about problems with afrs. So original plan was to give profilers a shot but after Valako called today I'm glad I went the route i did so far any way. He's got a couple days on and off on an intake porting and taking measurements and said there is not one thing so far that has raised a flag. In fact the not only were the floors like competitions the uppers were plenty thick also. Plenty enough to take some material out after raising the floors.
If I get a messed up casting it will go back just like any other.
01-16-2017 | 08:24 PM
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Again this was more of an experiment based on what I was told by a trust worthy person. Like mike tkach getrdun will be the ginipig on these. Nothing ventured nothing gained. Any flaw within reason they committed to return but said their quality control has been excellent since take over and new foundry.
01-16-2017 | 08:31 PM
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My head guy said the same thing getrdunn. That what you are getting from the big companies, like dart, afr, etc, is MUCH better than they were 20 years ago. Still not perfect, but much better quality.
Im sure JimV has plenty of stories of aftermarket heads having issues right out of the box, irregardless of the name on the box
Im sure JimV has plenty of stories of aftermarket heads having issues right out of the box, irregardless of the name on the box
