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sutphen 30 02-14-2017 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4528846)
Same info I got with my dyno sheets, it`s all the info I need, No complaints here . I`m interested in the power numbers and change in power who gives a $hit about some dyno air flow ..

Big Al don`t let this ass discourage you from posting here again , closest he`ll ever get to a big block is youtube..thanx Buddy.

yeah,,those pesky correction factors and bsfc's are to be damned.lets just see big numbers and call it good.

MILD THUNDER 02-14-2017 08:07 AM

I have some flow data from these particular modified 317 promaxx heads that were used on this build. I'll refrain from posting them, until I can find out if the manometers calibration has been certified and checked.

adk61 02-14-2017 08:17 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4528901)
I have some flow data from these particular modified 317 promaxx heads that were used on this build. I'll refrain from posting them, until I can find out if the manometers calibration has been certified and checked.

mine was calibrated, and the numbers you have Joe (Chris's) are very close to mine so I myself find it hard to believe that 2 flow benches located across 2 separate countries, hundreds of miles apart be both wrong almost to a "T"

so PHUK all ya haters out there!! remember guys like me are out there doin it while guys like you, sit ur fat assez in ur lazyboys watchin and hatin!!! don't be wearin out ur keyboards allya'lll... :lolhit::angry-smiley-038::poopoo:

MILD THUNDER 02-14-2017 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by adk61 (Post 4528904)
mine was calibrated, and the numbers you have Joe (Chris's) are very close to mine so I myself find it hard to believe that 2 flow benches located across 2 separate countries, hundreds of miles apart be both wrong almost to a "T"

so PHUK all ya haters out there!! remember guys like me are out there doin it while guys like you, sit ur fat assez in ur lazyboys watchin and hatin!!! don't be wearin out ur keyboards allya'lll... :lolhit::angry-smiley-038::poopoo:

Scott Foxwells flow numbers from the EQ heads, were right inline with what mine flowed, and what valako got from them as well.

But hey, lets get back to comparing ADVERISED flow numbers from AFR's website :)

adk61 02-14-2017 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4528840)
ya big al is cutting a fat hog on these heads,he sold one set and is working on set number two.i don,t think he is putting any paying advertiser,s out of business,again just saying.

well I've sold a few more than that Mike but still not anything anyone in the big world would bust a nut over!! so ya I will abide by the rules... as I don't want to hurt anyone's delicate feelings, however I am a "PAYING" member so my contribution is MORE than that of a certain other NAMELESS individual!! :angry-smiley-038:

:coolcowboy: peace be with ya'll

MILD THUNDER 02-14-2017 08:34 AM

The AFR V2 style stud girdle fits these heads. That would be the stud girdle from the newer style AFR heads, not the older ones that had issues with rocker stud location. Afr went to the V2 updated castings a couple years ago

mike tkach 02-14-2017 08:38 AM

RUTRO,i can understand what is being said and i have no desire to get into a pizzing match with anyone involved in the thread.thanks for posting information about the 317s.you,and sb are both valued members and both post good information so stop the bs boy,s.

Full Force 02-14-2017 08:39 AM

Glad I have real flow numbers on mine now also, learned a lot the last 2 years...

offshorexcursion 02-14-2017 09:35 AM

It would be GREAT if every dyno or head flow sheet had complete information, including a lie detector test from the operator saying he calibrated it, and entered accurate numbers!

Fact is they don't unfortunately. Doesn't matter anyways because it's easy to hit a number, the hard part is making them last in real offshore endurance, and that's what is lacking in this tech section. A bunch of keyboard cowboys who don't even have running boats let alone run any type of distance, poker run, race, etc. Then when their engines blow up they hide it and lie about it or make excuses. Just like the bravo guys bragging their drives last Year's but fail to mention they anchor all day at the sand bar.

Chit half the info in here is garbage. Tired of the constant name dropping without details. Like "stainless marine manifolds" OK which ones gen 1 or 3? "Callie's cranks" compstar or Magnum? "Scorpion rockers" ummm...Race, endurance?? There's so much incomplete and innacurate information I feel sorry for the newbies.

Shoot at least some people even dyno and flow their heads, and share their info right or wrong. Because those are just more tools to help succeed with a build. They are not God, they are just tools.

Overall this is a good thread let's keep the info coming!

adk61 02-14-2017 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by offshorexcursion (Post 4528933)
It would be GREAT if every dyno or head flow sheet had complete information, including a lie detector test from the operator saying he calibrated it, and entered accurate numbers!

Fact is they don't unfortunately. Doesn't matter anyways because it's easy to hit a number, the hard part is making them last in real offshore endurance, and that's what is lacking in this tech section. A bunch of keyboard cowboys who don't even have running boats let alone run any type of distance, poker run, race, etc. Then when their engines blow up they hide it and lie about it or make excuses. Just like the bravo guys bragging their drives last Year's but fail to mention they anchor all day at the sand bar.

Chit half the info in here is garbage. Tired of the constant name dropping without details. Like "stainless marine manifolds" OK which ones gen 1 or 3? "Callie's cranks" compstar or Magnum? "Scorpion rockers" ummm...Race, endurance?? There's so much incomplete and innacurate information I feel sorry for the newbies.

Shoot at least some people even dyno and flow their heads, and share their info right or wrong. Because those are just more tools to help succeed with a build. They are not God, they are just tools.

Geeze Kev I sure hope you're not referring to me lol

mike tkach 02-14-2017 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by offshorexcursion (Post 4528933)
It would be GREAT if every dyno or head flow sheet had complete information, including a lie detector test from the operator saying he calibrated it, and entered accurate numbers!

Fact is they don't unfortunately. Doesn't matter anyways because it's easy to hit a number, the hard part is making them last in real offshore endurance, and that's what is lacking in this tech section. A bunch of keyboard cowboys who don't even have running boats let alone run any type of distance, poker run, race, etc. Then when their engines blow up they hide it and lie about it or make excuses. Just like the bravo guys bragging their drives last Year's but fail to mention they anchor all day at the sand bar.

Chit half the info in here is garbage. Tired of the constant name dropping without details. Like "stainless marine manifolds" OK which ones gen 1 or 3? "Callie's cranks" compstar or Magnum? "Scorpion rockers" ummm...Race, endurance?? There's so much incomplete and innacurate information I feel sorry for the newbies.

Shoot at least some people even dyno and flow their heads, and share their info right or wrong. Because those are just more tools to help succeed with a build. They are not God, they are just tools.

care to say who you are directing this to?

Full Force 02-14-2017 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4528941)
care to say who you are directing this to?

Of course not, that would require taking heat

offshorexcursion 02-14-2017 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4528941)
care to say who you are directing this to?

Mike STOP stirring the pot and acting like your not, gosh you love drama!

It doesn't matter if it's directed towards everyone or no one or just a few. The facts are the facts and you can't deny that!

All we can do is work together and try and make this place better, more informative, and more FUN!

Cool thread, cool heads, great info coming in about them, still better than watching Main stream media!

offshorexcursion 02-14-2017 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4528943)
Of course not, that would require taking heat

LOL

I take plenty of heat, I just don't bite on every minnow thrown at me like you ;-)

mike tkach 02-14-2017 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by offshorexcursion (Post 4528944)
Mike STOP stirring the pot and acting like your not, gosh you love drama!

It doesn't matter if it's directed towards everyone or no one or just a few. The facts are the facts and you can't deny that!

All we can do is work together and try and make this place better, more informative, and more FUN!

Cool thread, cool heads, great info coming in about them, still better than watching Main stream media!

listen kevin,you are the king of drama,i for one am sick of your smart azz bs.you come on here like you are som big shot because you have a nice boat,well guess what, a lot of guys have nice boats so stop thinking you,s chit don,t stink.you,r post ,as most of your posts are derogatory and non specific and you really ad nothing to the tech section except DRAMA.if you have a problem with someone,man up and name that person,if not,STFU.have i made my thoughts clear enough for you to understand?

mike tkach 02-14-2017 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by offshorexcursion (Post 4528944)
Mike STOP stirring the pot and acting like your not, gosh you love drama!

It doesn't matter if it's directed towards everyone or no one or just a few. The facts are the facts and you can't deny that!

All we can do is work together and try and make this place better, more informative, and more FUN!

Cool thread, cool heads, great info coming in about them, still better than watching Main stream media!

and another thing,if you don,t like the tech info that some offer up just stop reading it,i can,t remember any of your posts offering tech info,mostly bob bashing and chit like that.NOTHING FUNNY ABOUT WHAT I AM SAYING.

MILD THUNDER 02-14-2017 10:25 AM

Fwiw, that dyno sheet posted, was not a marine build.

mike tkach 02-14-2017 10:29 AM

kevin,if you want to fuk with me bring it on,you really pizzed me off now.

offshorexcursion 02-14-2017 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4528959)
Fwiw, that dyno sheet posted, was not a marine build.

Cool, still great to learn more about this new product. Thanks. For sharing.

adk61 02-14-2017 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4528959)
Fwiw, that dyno sheet posted, was not a marine build.

true Joe, but it clearly illustrates the heads' ability to make good power in a low compression environment.. that was the reason I used it as reference

MILD THUNDER 02-14-2017 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by adk61 (Post 4528974)
true Joe, but it clearly illustrates the heads' ability to make good power in a low compression environment.. that was the reason I used it as reference

I agree. Just wanted to throw that out there.

adk61 02-14-2017 10:51 AM

OKAY OKAY!! let's stay on topic... AKRACING/PROMAXX please and thank you

ICDEDPPL 02-14-2017 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4528878)
yeah,,those pesky correction factors and bsfc's are to be damned.lets just see big numbers and call it good.

Yup , that`s it. You figured it all out.

hotrodford 02-14-2017 04:33 PM

group hug OK GUYS / info appears to be solid / aint nobody called anybody anything yet

MILD THUNDER 02-14-2017 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by hotrodford (Post 4529096)
group hug OK GUYS / info appears to be solid / aint nobody called anybody anything yet

I believe I was called an azzhole.

Its ok though. I have been in my safe space all day, and a friend gave me a trophy. I feel better.

Crude Intentions 02-14-2017 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4529103)
I believe I was called an azzhole.

Its ok though. I have been in my safe space all day, and a friend gave me a trophy. I feel better.


But aren't you an azzhole who only goes like 50ft to the playpen and anchors up?

MILD THUNDER 02-14-2017 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by I.C.U.Lookin (Post 4529140)
But aren't you an azzhole who only goes like 50ft to the playpen and anchors up?

Yes! We dont even get on plane. :)

Crude Intentions 02-14-2017 08:01 PM

I knew that 96 was on the truck!

MILD THUNDER 02-14-2017 08:03 PM

My truck cant do 96 without the boat hooked to it. Maybe with some promaxx heads its possible thou

F-2 Speedy 02-14-2017 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4529141)
Yes! We dont even get on plane. :)

No wonder your oil temps are low

Rookie 02-14-2017 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4529151)
My truck cant do 96 without the boat hooked to it. Maybe with some promaxx heads its possible thou

No, I believe you chose the better head for your application.

adk61 02-15-2017 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4528816)
Okay, so he's done some work. Has he posted the flow sheet on those ?

yes he's done the same work we do up here... mild reworking of the bowl, and yes Haxby we remove the lip and blend the chamber...

adk61 02-20-2017 11:10 AM

:cartman: no more questions?

getrdunn 02-21-2017 02:04 PM

Hopefully will have some numbers soon. Blower intake arrived today. I'm pretty certain Jims going to weld up the floors to optimize performance. Right now intake runner is at 340 cc. Little more than I anticipated but I'm not questioning it.

MILD THUNDER 02-21-2017 03:30 PM

I dont think a 565ci with a roots, will mind a 340cc port at all. As long as its flowing well.

SB 02-21-2017 05:06 PM

Alright...in generics....say you have a 320 port, and remove enough material from the top of the port. the short side radius, and enough to make the port uniform and slight taper, along with set the minimum cross sectional area where you want, you make a 340cc port.....do you really think even a smaller motor like a 502 is really gonna care ? In fact, it may, and probably will, make more power.

It's like when the LS motor first came out and people saw 240-260cc ports and schit themselves...until they drove them !

So, if a head porter is going into to your normal bbc heads, doing all these things and filling in the floor, as long as his all his required dimensions and shapes are transeferres, who cares if the post is +/- 10-20cc of what your head (on your shoulders) thinks ?

LOL.

SB 02-21-2017 05:31 PM

Kinda sucks these 300cc 24* BBC oval port Brodix heads are so damn expensive.
Anyone notice something weird (ie: not typical) with these ?

http://image.popularhotrodding.com/f...e-manifold.jpg

mike tkach 02-21-2017 06:19 PM

im guessing the raised ports.

getrdunn 02-21-2017 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by mike tkach (Post 4531188)
im guessing the raised ports.

No doubt. Awesome.

getrdunn 02-21-2017 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4531165)
Kinda sucks these 300cc 24* BBC oval port Brodix heads are so damn expensive.
Anyone notice something weird (ie: not typical) with these ?

http://image.popularhotrodding.com/f...e-manifold.jpg

What intake?


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