Lifter madness
#51
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I think on my next go-round, I'm moving to solid lifters . (on a solid cam).
Too many variances in hydraulics. Lifter type, oil viscosity, oil pressure, oil aeration, cam profile effects, oil temperature, spring pressures, and so on. At least with solids, you know what you got. Rules out alot of potential issues.
The big reason hydraulics were so popular, was the noise, and fact you don't have to adjust/check lash. Neither of those things are a big deal to me, but I can see where they may be to others. I am kinda wishing I had switched last winter when the engines were out. Because I could have took a look at lash right now, and get a decent idea how my new heads/valve seats and rest of things are holding up.
Too many variances in hydraulics. Lifter type, oil viscosity, oil pressure, oil aeration, cam profile effects, oil temperature, spring pressures, and so on. At least with solids, you know what you got. Rules out alot of potential issues.
The big reason hydraulics were so popular, was the noise, and fact you don't have to adjust/check lash. Neither of those things are a big deal to me, but I can see where they may be to others. I am kinda wishing I had switched last winter when the engines were out. Because I could have took a look at lash right now, and get a decent idea how my new heads/valve seats and rest of things are holding up.
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Got into my Whipple 525 this week and fairly certain they're crane 13532-16 installed fwiw
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#53
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I agree MT ^^^ that's what I'm trying next, then I will personally experience both and see.
It sounds like a lot of the negativity towards solids is exaggerated or not true, and the positives don't get brought up much.
They are not for everyone though.
It sounds like a lot of the negativity towards solids is exaggerated or not true, and the positives don't get brought up much.
They are not for everyone though.
#54
I think on my next go-round, I'm moving to solid lifters . (on a solid cam).
Too many variances in hydraulics. Lifter type, oil viscosity, oil pressure, oil aeration, cam profile effects, oil temperature, spring pressures, and so on. At least with solids, you know what you got. Rules out alot of potential issues.
The big reason hydraulics were so popular, was the noise, and fact you don't have to adjust/check lash. Neither of those things are a big deal to me, but I can see where they may be to others. I am kinda wishing I had switched last winter when the engines were out. Because I could have took a look at lash right now, and get a decent idea how my new heads/valve seats and rest of things are holding up.
Too many variances in hydraulics. Lifter type, oil viscosity, oil pressure, oil aeration, cam profile effects, oil temperature, spring pressures, and so on. At least with solids, you know what you got. Rules out alot of potential issues.
The big reason hydraulics were so popular, was the noise, and fact you don't have to adjust/check lash. Neither of those things are a big deal to me, but I can see where they may be to others. I am kinda wishing I had switched last winter when the engines were out. Because I could have took a look at lash right now, and get a decent idea how my new heads/valve seats and rest of things are holding up.
#55
I have solid flat tappet EDM litters in my 440 Mopar engine. (.903 factory size on a Mopar) and they are really pretty quiet.
Lots of the rhetoric you hear / read in mags and on the net come from guys who have never used them.
I have morel solid rollers (.903 on a 55mm cam) in the BBC boat engine (dyno time only) and they are quiet as well. One thing I'll be watching is the long term durability of the solid roller.
Lots of the rhetoric you hear / read in mags and on the net come from guys who have never used them.
I have morel solid rollers (.903 on a 55mm cam) in the BBC boat engine (dyno time only) and they are quiet as well. One thing I'll be watching is the long term durability of the solid roller.
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I have solid flat tappet EDM litters in my 440 Mopar engine. (.903 factory size on a Mopar) and they are really pretty quiet.
Lots of the rhetoric you hear / read in mags and on the net come from guys who have never used them.
I have morel solid rollers (.903 on a 55mm cam) in the BBC boat engine (dyno time only) and they are quiet as well. One thing I'll be watching is the long term durability of the solid roller.
Lots of the rhetoric you hear / read in mags and on the net come from guys who have never used them.
I have morel solid rollers (.903 on a 55mm cam) in the BBC boat engine (dyno time only) and they are quiet as well. One thing I'll be watching is the long term durability of the solid roller.
#57
I have solid flat tappet EDM litters in my 440 Mopar engine. (.903 factory size on a Mopar) and they are really pretty quiet.
Lots of the rhetoric you hear / read in mags and on the net come from guys who have never used them.
I have morel solid rollers (.903 on a 55mm cam) in the BBC boat engine (dyno time only) and they are quiet as well. One thing I'll be watching is the long term durability of the solid roller.
Lots of the rhetoric you hear / read in mags and on the net come from guys who have never used them.
I have morel solid rollers (.903 on a 55mm cam) in the BBC boat engine (dyno time only) and they are quiet as well. One thing I'll be watching is the long term durability of the solid roller.
#58
would a tie bar lifter stand up better then a tall body dog bone style lifter?
looking at the GM 17120060 lifters - used in the 572/620 motor vs say the crane 13532-16 and wondering if their is any one that stands better?
575sci update motor, more boost and more cam
looking at the GM 17120060 lifters - used in the 572/620 motor vs say the crane 13532-16 and wondering if their is any one that stands better?
575sci update motor, more boost and more cam
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put johnsons in and call it a day...
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i recently used a set of the comp short travel hyd roller lifters on a n/a 509 build and i liked them.i won,t use the morel hyd roller lifters anymore,out of 10 sets i had 3 lifters colapse right away on the dyno,this was during warm up.i had to replace the bad one before a dyno pull could be made.i think comp cams hit a home run with their short travel hyd roller lifter.