454 build and dyno test
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)seen a couple of degrees of retard here and there.when in boost,I run 31-32 ° and out out boost kinda aggressive w/ timing,all in by 3000rpms.I've been running it like that for 12yrs.run a full maximus 32pitch props,only thing That gets me on plane,so a pretty good load.I've never dynoed my motors.how's your timing in comparison?
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Awesome stuff. Love seeing these 454 build ups. Alot of guys toss their 454s aside as if they are a 4 cyl pinto engine. Truth is they can make some decent power with the right combination.
Id take a pair of of these over a pair of typical 650hp 540s anyday
Id take a pair of of these over a pair of typical 650hp 540s anyday
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I don't use the extra injectors(80lbs also),I run 60lbs in the rails,most boost I've ever seen is 4.5psi and I have(when I tried to lean the motor out for some type of cruise economy
)seen a couple of degrees of retard here and there.when in boost,I run 31-32 ° and out out boost kinda aggressive w/ timing,all in by 3000rpms.I've been running it like that for 12yrs.run a full maximus 32pitch props,only thing That gets me on plane,so a pretty good load.I've never dynoed my motors.
how's your timing in comparison?
)seen a couple of degrees of retard here and there.when in boost,I run 31-32 ° and out out boost kinda aggressive w/ timing,all in by 3000rpms.I've been running it like that for 12yrs.run a full maximus 32pitch props,only thing That gets me on plane,so a pretty good load.I've never dynoed my motors.how's your timing in comparison?
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i did from 3700 up, the motor actually made more tq down low than dyno sheet shows (sub 3500) but brake would not hold it, before water to brake got hot saw 600to 700 around 2800,3000, 3200 where sheet shows in 500 domething area BUT it couldnt hold the tq wo winging up to about 3500 , especially once it warmed up, the two sheets i posted i was at part throttle (2/3 or so) until about 3500 ish so i couldnt do.much tuning down there and will have to do it in boat, its a gopower 1000 but even when you look at 1500 hp brakes they are rated more like 800 to 1000 ft lbs tq down low,Smitty
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322 Baja, only big prob i see is customer swears boat ran 68-70 gps w 1.5 drives, 23 merc 3 blades on bone stock 454.mags which is virtually impossible (prop slip and rev limiter dont add up) so when boat gains 16 or so mph from the 62 it prob ran and runs 78 or 80 he might be dissapointed! If these make 700 in marine trim as installed i dont picture it running much faster than 80, still a pig. He also bought a set of xrs w 1.36 gears and thinks hes going to spin 30s, again, i dont see it.
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How do you make the MEFI recognize boost in an originally non-forced induction application?
Add a 2 bar map and scale the table? (at the cost of already course resolution)
Different VE table/spark table options with the tuning software that allow more columns for increased manifold pressure? (and obvious 2 bar map installation)
Other?
Add a 2 bar map and scale the table? (at the cost of already course resolution)
Different VE table/spark table options with the tuning software that allow more columns for increased manifold pressure? (and obvious 2 bar map installation)
Other?
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How do you make the MEFI recognize boost in an originally non-forced induction application?
Add a 2 bar map and scale the table? (at the cost of already course resolution)
Different VE table/spark table options with the tuning software that allow more columns for increased manifold pressure? (and obvious 2 bar map installation)
Other?
Add a 2 bar map and scale the table? (at the cost of already course resolution)
Different VE table/spark table options with the tuning software that allow more columns for increased manifold pressure? (and obvious 2 bar map installation)
Other?
I invested in a 8 pak o2 sensor system too for my dyno so i can go back after pulls and look at sll the cylinders and quickly make fuel corrections, Smitty
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322 Baja, only big prob i see is customer swears boat ran 68-70 gps w 1.5 drives, 23 merc 3 blades on bone stock 454.mags which is virtually impossible (prop slip and rev limiter dont add up) so when boat gains 16 or so mph from the 62 it prob ran and runs 78 or 80 he might be dissapointed! If these make 700 in marine trim as installed i dont picture it running much faster than 80, still a pig. He also bought a set of xrs w 1.36 gears and thinks hes going to spin 30s, again, i dont see it.


