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That’s exciting that you made that much power, hopefully I make 850....I would think it should with the build I’m doing. What drive ratio are you running your blower to get 8lbs, and what rpm did you get peak power with the 741 cam? |
Originally Posted by Daytona25
(Post 4676685)
That’s exciting that you made that much power, hopefully I make 850....I would think it should with the build I’m doing. What drive ratio are you running your blower to get 8lbs, and what rpm did you get peak power with the 741 cam? i haven't run it with the pulley swap. so im not exactly sure on boost but on the dyno it was a 55 lower 52 upper and i got a peak of 4.2psi. now at 55 lower 48 upper im hopping that gets me in the 7/8psi range |
Originally Posted by Daytona25
(Post 4676685)
That’s exciting that you made that much power, hopefully I make 850....I would think it should with the build I’m doing. What drive ratio are you running your blower to get 8lbs, and what rpm did you get peak power with the 741 cam? |
That’s a big jump, won’t you have to retune for that?? |
Hogie roll so with a blower motor more cam just gets the desired power earlier?? |
Originally Posted by LTZCrew
(Post 4676792)
peak power came in at 5900rpms, max trq at 4700rpms
i haven't run it with the pulley swap. so im not exactly sure on boost but on the dyno it was a 55 lower 52 upper and i got a peak of 4.2psi. now at 55 lower 48 upper im hopping that gets me in the 7/8psi range |
Mild thunder I was kinda wondering the 4lbs with 5% overdrive too....figured it would have done better than that?? I plan to start on the dyno a touch overdriven and have pulleys to go up to 10% over depending on how much power I get and or boost it makes!?
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4676853)
Overdriven 8-71 on that setup and only made 4lbs? Id say either the blower is worn, or your throttle bodies are killing you.
im thinking its a combo of the throttle bodies and the low compression 7.5 maybe 7.8:1.. not letting it really breath a ton. i think if Daytona25 has a point of compression on me he should do it "easy". |
Originally Posted by LTZCrew
(Post 4676878)
brand new blower so i hope not
im thinking its a combo of the throttle bodies and the low compression 7.5 maybe 7.8:1.. not letting it really breath a ton. i think if Daytona25 has a point of compression on me he should do it "easy". |
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4676959)
What size throttle bodies are they?
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Don’t worry about hi jacking the thread, I’m learning too!! |
Originally Posted by LTZCrew
(Post 4677017)
i was going to send you a pm to pick your brain so i dont hi jack this thread haha, stock 575sci units with the pods removed
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Originally Posted by 14 apache
(Post 4691491)
power looks pretty good. I don't know why he did 600rpm a sec. it would be nice to see o2 reAdings I see BSFC is very high on the top end may be power there if it's that Rich. |
He did not have the ability to hook up o2 sensors so I’ll have to fine tune the rest out in my boat! Still happy with the power for the cubic inches though so far!! 3* timing was worth 50hp! |
Originally Posted by Daytona25
(Post 4691514)
He did not have the ability to hook up o2 sensors so I’ll have to fine tune the rest out in my boat! Still happy with the power for the cubic inches though so far!! 3* timing was worth 50hp! |
Ground straps still showed it would have probably taken more timing than we put in it, started at 29* and could hardly tell the tip of the strap was colored then I slowed the blower down and took 2 jet sizes out of front and back of both carbs and made a second pull, it picked up tq and lost a few ho but still had a flat spot around 5800rpm so I bumped timing up to 32* and the motor pulled cleaner and sounded a lot better still shows timing mark before the elbow on the ground strap but that pull picked up another 10tq and 50hp and had a nice smooth power curve with no dips or stumbles so I left it there plan on checking plugs and air fuel ratio once it’s in the boat? |
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That’s first pull at 10% overdriven with 29* timing and 82 & 86 jets |
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That’s second pull at 4% overdriven still 29* timing and 80 & 84 jets |
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Final pull at 4% overdriven with 80&84 jets 32* timing left it alone after this one seemed to be happy there. |
Ran a pair of 1050s the timing mark on ground strap changed from 200rpm a second to 100rpm a second went from center of radius to base on plug. Just watch it in the boat 600rpm a second is not a good test for boat engine. |
Ok, I’ll check one after the first short run, but isn’t 32* still a mild timing setting?? |
Last two motors i did they ended up around 27* they where close to 9to1 they would burn the plugs up at 32* timing. I was arguing with a hot shot tuner on the turbo motors it picked up power with timing but you put the plugs under microscope it showed detonation. You might want to go buy one of those knock warning lights i posted on another tread. I have blown up new stuff and it sucks.
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Mine is 8.2:1 with aluminum afr heads 335cc runners and 121cc chambers |
It’s the same short block but with better rods as I had before just different heads and cam, also bigger blower which should cool charge down some?? Old motor ran 33* timing for 6yrs and 100hrs and was goin strong when I tore it down. |
Just keep an eye on it test it in the boat it would of bin nice to get some air fuel ratios on dyno that's kinda the reason for getting it dynod to start with.
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7200rpm???? In a boat???? Wow
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Originally Posted by 14 apache
(Post 4691594)
Just keep an eye on it test it in the boat it would of bin nice to get some air fuel ratios on dyno that's kinda the reason for getting it dynod to start with.
Ive tuned in different calibrations on the same car for 1/4 mile vs 1/8 mile drag racing Ive seen a perfectly happy 1/8 mile calibration burn down on a 1/4 mile run...... Id set it up in the boat with the most conservative setting....run it for a bit....then pull some plugs....go from there. |
Originally Posted by Swamplizard
(Post 4691639)
7200rpm???? In a boat???? Wow
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My dyno operator did 100 or 150rpm per second pull on my boat engine. I didnt like it. We started the pull around 2800rpm, and ended it at 6500. The pull itself lasted like 30 seconds. Engine sounded like it was in a 6spd manual car and trying to accelerate from a dead stop in 6th gear. switched to 300rpm per sec.
my thoughts were, if my boat took 30 seconds to accelerate from 2800 to max rpm, id have to look behind to see if i was still tied to the dock. Now if you wanna do steady state pull at max rpm, i like that. |
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4691843)
My dyno operator did 100 or 150rpm per second pull on my boat engine. I didnt like it. We started the pull around 2800rpm, and ended it at 6500. The pull itself lasted like 30 seconds. Engine sounded like it was in a 6spd manual car and trying to accelerate from a dead stop in 6th gear. switched to 300rpm per sec.
my thoughts were, if my boat took 30 seconds to accelerate from 2800 to max rpm, id have to look behind to see if i was still tied to the dock. Now if you wanna do steady state pull at max rpm, i like that. |
First weekend out, motor ran awesome all weekend, but last outing the out drive was stuck in forward gear, broke the shift cable trying to pull it out of gear, what causes them to stick?? Felt like it had a load against it say if rpm were too high when trying to shift out but rpm was at 800 in gear like normal?? Bravo xr drive with 30-40 hrs on it and fresh drive oil before this weekend from bravo shop |
Cone clutch is stuck. Did boat catch air and rev high? That'd most common thing to happen. |
No air time or over revs on that run took some people for a ride 8 miles round trip and run it up to 5000rpm twice but was easy on the throttle taking off and accelerated a few hundred rpm at a time to 5000 then slowed down the same?? So how do I free the cone clutch?? And now that it happened once will it be a reoccurring thing?? |
cone clutch shaft probably broke.
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Originally Posted by sutphen 30
(Post 4695475)
cone clutch shaft probably broke.
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