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Originally Posted by resurrected
(Post 4794666)
O2 sensors are easy to install, I made the spacers for mine, and with an extension like the Innovate motorsports one, they should stay dry.
Talk to guys at quick fuel and set it up the same as there m650, bleeds restrictors everything, I just added two jet sizes to make sure it was rich enough. Took it out last weekend. Cruised mid throttle as it was pretty choppy, had that raspy lean sound to it give it more throttle to get up on top of the chop and go but it still sounds lean. Stop check plugs crispy white, idle around a bit, stop jet up 2 more sizes front and back, give it a 1/4 turn on all 4 screws. Sounds a little better WOT but not great still got the raspy nasty lean sound in the mid plugs still crispy white. Reason for asking for some Boat Carb Masters help is we go racing this weekend (go team Capco). Want to take it out 4th of July and really don't have the time to mess with spacer and putting the LM2 on it right now, but still get it rich enough that I don't have to worry about burning the valves out of it or stop every 20 min and check plugs put bigger ifrs in it as the base tune on quick fuel m650 definatly not enough for it with or without 4 more jet sizes on each end. Thats where I am at right now lol sorry for the long post. Thanks for your guess help. |
Originally Posted by fbc25el
(Post 4794683)
What size are the boosters and angle channels? I am thinking they should be around .140. If they are too small you can throw more jet at it and it won't help.
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Originally Posted by fbc25el
(Post 4794683)
What size are the boosters and angle channels? I am thinking they should be around .140. If they are too small you can throw more jet at it and it won't help.
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may have missed it but what exhaust is on this? also need cam specs as was mentioned earlier it may be reverting some.
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A too lean sound to me while cruising and throttle not moving is on/off hesitation and a lean pop thru intake hear and there.
So you have me lost on this lean exhaust noise thing. You need to get a hold on your tuning issues. Why was a 650 so damn rich with out of the box jetting ? Was it really just the PCV ? Kind of hard for me to believe that especially with it turning transom black and such. Was fuel psi ever checked ? Some of these marine mechanical pumps can be all over the place but where we want them. Manufacturing has seemed to take a dump with these too. If you carb doesn't have the same metering blocks, boosters, venturi size, plate size, etc, I don't get why you changed all those other things to same as a M650. |
Originally Posted by compedgemarine
(Post 4794699)
may have missed it but what exhaust is on this? also need cam specs as was mentioned earlier it may be reverting some.
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Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4794704)
A too lean sound to me while cruising and throttle not moving is on/off hesitation and a lean pop thru intake hear and there.
So you have me lost on this lean exhaust noise thing. You need to get a hold on your tuning issues. Why was a 650 so damn rich with out of the box jetting ? Was it really just the PCV ? Kind of hard for me to believe that especially with it turning transom black and such. Was fuel psi ever checked ? Some of these marine mechanical pumps can be all over the place but where we want them. Manufacturing has seemed to take a dump with these too. 650 If you carb doesn't have the same metering blocks, boosters, venturi size, plate size, etc, I don't get why you changed all those other things to same as a M650. The lean sound i am talking about is hard to explain. Don't really have an out of the box jetting as it has a hp650 main body which they recommended 68 and 78s m650 is richer then that just a little diffrent high speed bleed bit not much. Power Valve leaking was doing the black transom. When they leak don't know from where or how much fuel it is getting coming through vacuum ports and so on. Fuel pump is a carter electric marine pump 6an line earls 100gph pre filter mercruiser filter separator after. 6.5 psi at carb idle and WOT Setup is the same as M650 emulsion jets, ifrs, pvcr, .140 down leg boosters, jets, venturi size, throttle blade size, I guess the m650 does have a choke horn but really never seen them make much difference when the chokes off. |
Okay, that cam is not big. It has been used a bunch in mild 350 marine engines. The 218/224 112 even more. And several with the 224/230 112LSA.
Stock exhaust fine with with your cam It should use very near box stock jetting from any 650 built correctly from the manufacturer. |
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It sounds like you need the boosters to come in quicker. I would go with 2 emulsion @1 & 3 at .028 and drop the HSAB to .069.
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