Go Back  Offshoreonly.com > Technical > General Q & A
Catastrophic Engine failure. 454 gen 6 >

Catastrophic Engine failure. 454 gen 6

Notices

Catastrophic Engine failure. 454 gen 6

Thread Tools
 
Old 07-12-2021 | 04:30 PM
  #11  
F-2 Speedy's Avatar
Platinum Member
Community Builder
10 Year Member
Platinum Member
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 11,438
Likes: 3,967
From: Midwest & T-Rock
Default

The issue of not reving over 2k is strange, what kind of ignition are you running ? is this efi or carb
F-2 Speedy is offline  
Reply
Old 07-12-2021 | 04:35 PM
  #12  
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 315
Likes: 88
From: SE Virginia/NH
Default

Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
The issue of not reving over 2k is strange, what kind of ignition are you running ? is this efi or carb
Very strange. Carb and TB V. I did set it in base timing mode.
edit: maybe flooding the cylinders then hydro locking? On the other hand, it was running too well for that.

Last edited by HawkX66; 07-12-2021 at 04:39 PM.
HawkX66 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-12-2021 | 04:40 PM
  #13  
F-2 Speedy's Avatar
Platinum Member
Community Builder
10 Year Member
Platinum Member
 
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 11,438
Likes: 3,967
From: Midwest & T-Rock
Default

Is the TB 5 the one you have to set kind of like EFI ?? what are you seeing total advance,
F-2 Speedy is offline  
Reply
Old 07-12-2021 | 04:44 PM
  #14  
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 315
Likes: 88
From: SE Virginia/NH
Default

Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
Is the TB 5 the one you have to set kind of like EFI ?? what are you seeing total advance,
There's two different ones. One where you unplug and use a jumper and one like mine where you ground a purple w/white wire.
HawkX66 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-12-2021 | 04:54 PM
  #15  
Registered
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 4,198
Likes: 500
From: KY
Default

Base timing mode
TB5 - ground purple/white wire
EST - 12V to lead and jumper other 2 wires together on right side connector of distributor
AllDodge is offline  
Reply
Old 07-24-2021 | 06:47 AM
  #16  
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 315
Likes: 88
From: SE Virginia/NH
Default

My oldest son and I pulled the engine last night. So far it looks like a #8 piston failure and contact with the intake valve. No obvious signs of other damage so I'm hopeful. All the other cylinders appear perfect using a bore scope.
I'm pulling the head and piston this morning for the autopsy and should know more then.
Now, why....?






HawkX66 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-24-2021 | 08:24 AM
  #17  
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 315
Likes: 88
From: SE Virginia/NH
Default

Fargin non-adjustable rockers bit me. Had plenty of PTD clearance, but didn't check valve clearance because it was all stock parts. Live n learn... Never again will I use the non-adjustable set up.

Edit: I checked my notes and I did check PTV clearance. Should have been plenty. wtf?






Last edited by HawkX66; 07-24-2021 at 08:50 AM.
HawkX66 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-24-2021 | 10:43 AM
  #18  
Rookie's Avatar
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,023
Likes: 1,522
From: Grand Rapids, MI
Default

Valve seized in head and took piston out. Lack of oil as indicated by the loud lifters. You're clearance was good till it seized. Probably started galling when the plugs were left out.
Rookie is offline  
Reply
Old 07-24-2021 | 12:07 PM
  #19  
Thread Starter
Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2017
Posts: 315
Likes: 88
From: SE Virginia/NH
Default

Originally Posted by Rookie
Valve seized in head and took piston out. Lack of oil as indicated by the loud lifters. You're clearance was good till it seized. Probably started galling when the plugs were left out.
Plenty of oil. Cam phasing problem. All the intake valves were kissing the pistons. At the machine shop right now.
HawkX66 is offline  
Reply
Old 07-24-2021 | 02:03 PM
  #20  
Rookie's Avatar
Registered
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,023
Likes: 1,522
From: Grand Rapids, MI
Default

Phasing? What was it set at? That should have been felt while turning over by hand if it was hitting all the intake valves. Glad you found the problem. Hope you can salvage the rest of the season.
Rookie is offline  
Reply


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.