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Old 08-05-2021 | 01:19 PM
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That looks correct
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Old 08-05-2021 | 01:33 PM
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That looks correct
After 10k miles rowing through the 4 SPD pretty hard I'd say I'm safe there...
Sad part in all this is that I obviously knew better.
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Old 08-05-2021 | 01:47 PM
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You still going to degree it ?
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Old 08-05-2021 | 02:11 PM
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You still going to degree it ?
Yep. If not just to prove that I still can lol Just a stock mag cam, but I want to see the numbers come out right before it goes back in the boat this time. Never should have put it back in with not having the numbers jive last time.
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Old 08-05-2021 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HawkX66
Yep. If not just to prove that I still can lol Just a stock mag cam, but I want to see the numbers come out right before it goes back in the boat this time. Never should have put it back in with not having the numbers jive last time.
Get the factory timing set that comes with the retainer plate and be done with it. No need to degree it.
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Old 08-05-2021 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by TomZ
The 0/keyway is lining up with the alignment dot on the cam gear. There should be a corresponding dot on the crank gear that lines up with the dot on the timing gear for 0/straight up.

They way was installed, the cam was very advanced leading to intake valves smacking pistons.

Could have been a lot worse.

Dave, make sure to get the intake valves checked. It was pretty noise when running and pictures make it look like they were all touching.

**Edit - I saw you mentioned above that you had new valves.
I'm surprised it ran and made power?
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Old 08-06-2021 | 08:59 AM
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I'm surprised it ran and made power?
It ran beautiful (exhaust sounded great) up to 2k rpms, but didn't make enough power to even get on plane.
In the interest of being honest and not bashing a vendor who doesn't deserve it... The markings got covered with assembly lube. The timing set was perfect. I pulled the cover last night and just shook my head.
New piston and rings are in. Bearings all look good. Now to decide what to do about the oil pickup. I ordered a Moroso that gets bolted on, but it's 1/2" shorter than the one I had in there. Worse comes to worse I'll weld a tab on the old new one. I could braze it's but I'd rather have it bolted in.
One last thing, before I took the 1,3,5,7 head off, I turned the motor over to line up the timing and what a surprise, contact. I didn't have contact when I first built it because the lifters weren't pumped up. When I pulled the head it was smooth again.





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Old 08-06-2021 | 09:12 AM
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why not just run a mellings pump and pickup ? M-77 ?
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Old 08-06-2021 | 09:12 AM
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Glad you're getting it back together quick!
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Old 08-06-2021 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
why not just run a mellings pump and pickup ? M-77 ?
I am, but you really should braze the pick up on. The pickup is just a press fit unless you're talking about something else I'm not picturing.

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Glad you're getting it back together quick!
Thanks. Hopefully the humidity stays reasonable for a while like it is right now. Makes working on the boat so much nicer not having to bathe the parts in sweat.
I need to throw a new lower shift cable in before I drop the motor back in. Other than that this won't be bad to finish up.
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