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Old 11-11-2021 | 09:27 AM
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I thought he was using .904’s. Not certain though.
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Old 11-11-2021 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by articfriends
My question is when heads were off, I assume lifters looked good at that point, 4 hours later we got a broken tie bar but you also have other ones spreading apart in lifter bores? Did you add spring pressure to heads this last go around, was anything besides the "lean/mean tune" different?
There were a few were tight. I did not know why and mentioned it to my engine builder , I thought maybe the bores were too tight. I wanted to order replacements but you know Covid and none available. He never mentioned it again so I figured all was good.



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damm that sucks,i feel your pain.i think maybe if the intake valve was not opening due to the failed lifter the cylinder was sucking water through the exhaust valve on the intake stroke.the lack of carbon on the piston could be from water in the cylinder.it seems like you just can,t get a break.
Mike the burned out piston was opposite of the lifter problem .. so I`m not sure if one was cause and the other affect or if it all went at the same time. On my data log I see the even when the piston broke, boost went from 4 to 10 psi in a split second as did the intake temp. Combustion in the intake. That was at 3700rpm, I heard something weird going, smelled something weird .... a minute later at 5500 rpm is when it started to sound real bad so I shut it down. Maybe thats when the lifter went .

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We touched on soreading forks in this mega thread:
Cam and valvetrain longevity....??? low duration high lift...
mt thinks it’s (spreading forks) massive set up issue.

Before i forget: quick before i forget: you have dart pro m block ?
Yes sir Dart BIG M

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I would agree with mike tach. I’d also agree with you “icdedppl” and stay away from social media when it comes to high performance engine tuning. Really sucks Dan but could’ve been much worse. What was that engine running like before pulling?
Great ! I was passing my buddy in a 39 TG lol

Did you do any logging of the AFR? Eddie said that blower had a side to side AfR issue at idle. Not the area you were tuning, but just a thought. Low 12s isn’t a washing a cylinder, who said that?
Eddie says he hardly ever goes richer than 12`s at wot . I like low 11s . No way am I "washing down cylinders" at 11. unburned fuel at 6000rpm , I don`t think so . When I first got the boat it was in the 9`s and yes the bores had a mirror finish, cross hatch gone and they smoked lie a choo chooo train.


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Old 11-11-2021 | 09:38 AM
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I thought he was using .904’s. Not certain though.
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I`d like to upgrade to the .904s but I`m not sure what kind of machining is involved with that .. I`ll find out later today when I take my engines in. 55mm cam and 904 seems like a good combo to me but probably over kill??
I spoke with Ron Iskandarien and he recommends a roller lifter with the Johnson body . Didn`t think I needed bushed.
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Old 11-11-2021 | 09:40 AM
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One problem with Holley EFI is it`s way too easy to make changes . I need to stop messing with the tune .
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Old 11-11-2021 | 09:49 AM
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I`d like to upgrade to the .904s but I`m not sure what kind of machining is involved with that .. I`ll find out later today when I take my engines in. 55mm cam and 904 seems like a good combo to me but probably over kill??
I spoke with Ron Iskandarien and he recommends a roller lifter with the Johnson body . Didn`t think I needed bushed.
Do yourself a HUGE favor and deal/talk to thee Rick Iskenderian you'll be glad you did ,if you need his cell # let me know .
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Old 11-11-2021 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
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I`d like to upgrade to the .904s but I`m not sure what kind of machining is involved with that .. I`ll find out later today when I take my engines in. 55mm cam and 904 seems like a good combo to me but probably over kill??
I spoke with Ron Iskandarien and he recommends a roller lifter with the Johnson body . Didn`t think I needed bushed.
Most typical failure mode is needles from a failed lifter traveling through the engine. I think you could run the bushed lifter until something starts clattering and then you’d just need lifters and maybe a valve job. With your iron heads I’m assuming you’d never get a seat beat into the head either.

Anecdotes I’ve read are that lash never moves if everything is happy. On Cat machines we run 2500hrs between lashes 😂
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Old 11-11-2021 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL

not sure which happened first ................
FARG!!!!

That sucks.
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Old 11-11-2021 | 03:13 PM
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Do yourself a HUGE favor and deal/talk to thee Rick Iskenderian you'll be glad you did ,if you need his cell # let me know .
I talked with Ron, guy knows his stuff. I don`t think they have a .904 lifter however .
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Old 11-11-2021 | 03:16 PM
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Dropped off the engines today, machine shop says they machines bores to .904 all the time not a problem so that`s the route I want to go.
the cam is $hit so need a new one anyway , just not sure what all has to change to run 904`s . Can I run the same cam specs? I assume new pushrods?
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Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
I talked with Ron, guy knows his stuff. I don`t think they have a .904 lifter however .
Rick just sent me 2 sets of 904 Red Zones , told me get rid off all the cases of Brad Penn 20w - 50w and dont use it anymore the new formula since they were bought out he stated they tested and garbage ,,, Bob Teague mentioned the same thing ,so no more Green Oil
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