sorry wrong thread

For the argument, Price a Mac 1/2 '" wrench it is more than a snapon they are both considered to be professional tools but snapon always comes with a professional person and company behind it. For the guys not in business go to snapons web site and find the branch closeet to you and ask for your local dealers number, with over 3000 dealers nationwide I'm positive there is one close by who would be more than happy to service you at your house or on his way around. You wont be sorry. 1 QUALITY
2 PRICE
3 SERVICE
PICK ANY TWO

Hillbilly- You obviously misunderstood my post. I did not compare your toolbox to a Bayliner- I merely used the analogy to illustrate the point that IF a customer had a choice, and IF he compared apples to apples with all things being equal, the Snap on box would rarely be chosen over the Matco. That's not an opinion, it's just a matter of how the boxes are constructed, options, customization, etc. You did not have that opportunity, since your Matco dealer sucks. We have had the same problem with the Snap on dealers in my area for many years- poor customer service, dealers bouncing in and out, dishonest practices, etc. It's not a reflection of the company- it's a reflection of the individual dealers. If you are satisfied with your toolbox, you should be proud of it. For example, I drive Fords. I am very proud to own them, and wouldn't have anything else. But I also realize that a Ford is not a Mercedes or a Rolls. The flaw in this analogy is that the Ford also costs a lot less- not the case with the Snap on box, something that I will never understand.

I also did not say that people who own Snap on boxes are not smart. I did say that a person smart enough to compare the products equally (if he has that option) will most likely choose the Matco.

And one last point. The statement made on another post that everything branded Snap on is produced by Snap on is absolutely false. There are a vast number of Snap on branded items that are purchased by Snap on from outside vendors. I recently recieved a Matco branded radiator pressure test kit with Snap on instructions inside. Snap on didn't make it, and neither did Matco. Snap on tap and die sets, and drill bits are made by Irwin (Ace, Hanson, American Tool, Peterson- all the same folks), and so are Matco's and Mac's. I won't bore you with the hundreds of other items, but I will say that Matco sells these same items for less than Snap on does. I also make a larger profit percentage on them than the Snap on dealer does, so the higher price charged by the Snap on dealer is not the dealer's fault- Snap on is just making more money on them. That's part of the reason that Matco has the highest dealer longevity in the tool business, but that's another story.

Sorry again for the rant- just trying to set the record straight.

There is a whole nother side to the tool box arguement to consider as well. I have always gone out of my way to present a proffesional image to my customers, I think it's the only way to do buisness. If you took a poll of average shop customers what do you think would be the most recognized name brand in proffesional quality tools ? It makes a statement to a customer when he walks into a shop and sees a row of Snap-on toolboxes. To alot of cutomers, and this is a seriously misinformed opinion, Matco and Mac are just another no name tool company that they have never heard of.

its not the box that makes the mechanic its the tools and his knowlage of how to use them,

Right now I have a matco custom monster box I bought it because it was the only one I could find to hold most of my tools in a manner that I like, I can close my eyes and go to the drawer and grab the tool Im looking for,
ive had snap on in the past and yes they are great boxes I just like the way mine is laided out.

That said 90 % of my tools are Snap on and wouldnt own anything less, as a matter of fact Madprops used to be my Snap on dealer hes a great guy to deal with..........

Well said!! Madprops, Where are you from?

I have been in the auto & marine repair business since 1979 and have over $200,000 in Snapon tools and equiptment hell I bought a SnapoN truck last month to use for moving equiptment around. I was also a Snapon dealer in the late 80's for a couple of years. As for Craftsman I still have boxes of them from reposessions when I was a dealer and I do use them when I need a wrench to cut the end off or weld on other than that I would only use them in case of emergency. I have had them all only dealer that I will let in my shop is Snapon. Brian

agreed

snap-on they hol up better but i like the matco and hate mac

Snap on

Back when I was buying a lot The SnapOn guy use to come by my house