Pfaff or Teague or ?
09-06-2004 | 02:37 PM
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Re: Pfaff or Teague or ?
Teeitup:
Watching your posts lately is like watch a tormented cat in a cage. Quit driving your self nuts with all the possibilities. They are endless! If you're not sure of which way to go, approach your project like an erector set so you don't have to experiment with motors and costly drives. You got a nice engine and drive package now, if you take them off and resell, you won't get what there really worth in the mean time. Building a project boat is a lot of the fun and doing in in affordable steps can be lots of fun done right and you will be able to stop when you are comfortable with the total package. The 496 engine you have now can be built up from the crank and pistons up to give you great reliability, better speed and performance now with your drive up to about 525HP to 550 HP which is going to give you a fair speed increase in a Eliminator cat. When you are ready for more speed have Max Machine Work bullet proof your drive and add the Whipple Supercharger with Dustins programming and you are at 750-800 reliable horsepower and a drive that can take it. In the mean time you can add some sexy stainless headers, blue print the bottom of the cat and not be dealing with a fire breathing dragon that you may not be happy with when done and will probably get you only about 200 real hours between freshenings. As for engine builders I feel Paul Pfaff can take your stock block 496 with our new forged internals and heads and really build you a reliable base engine that you can add to as budget and time allow. I am not trying to sell anything here I just see you tormenting yourself to death with all the possibilities! Boating is suppossed to be fun, enjoy the Ride!
Ray @ Raylar
Watching your posts lately is like watch a tormented cat in a cage. Quit driving your self nuts with all the possibilities. They are endless! If you're not sure of which way to go, approach your project like an erector set so you don't have to experiment with motors and costly drives. You got a nice engine and drive package now, if you take them off and resell, you won't get what there really worth in the mean time. Building a project boat is a lot of the fun and doing in in affordable steps can be lots of fun done right and you will be able to stop when you are comfortable with the total package. The 496 engine you have now can be built up from the crank and pistons up to give you great reliability, better speed and performance now with your drive up to about 525HP to 550 HP which is going to give you a fair speed increase in a Eliminator cat. When you are ready for more speed have Max Machine Work bullet proof your drive and add the Whipple Supercharger with Dustins programming and you are at 750-800 reliable horsepower and a drive that can take it. In the mean time you can add some sexy stainless headers, blue print the bottom of the cat and not be dealing with a fire breathing dragon that you may not be happy with when done and will probably get you only about 200 real hours between freshenings. As for engine builders I feel Paul Pfaff can take your stock block 496 with our new forged internals and heads and really build you a reliable base engine that you can add to as budget and time allow. I am not trying to sell anything here I just see you tormenting yourself to death with all the possibilities! Boating is suppossed to be fun, enjoy the Ride!
Ray @ Raylar
09-06-2004 | 04:32 PM
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Re: Pfaff or Teague or ?
Originally Posted by Raylar
Teeitup:
Watching your posts lately is like watch a tormented cat in a cage. Quit driving your self nuts with all the possibilities. They are endless! If you're not sure of which way to go, approach your project like an erector set so you don't have to experiment with motors and costly drives. You got a nice engine and drive package now, if you take them off and resell, you won't get what there really worth in the mean time. Building a project boat is a lot of the fun and doing in in affordable steps can be lots of fun done right and you will be able to stop when you are comfortable with the total package. The 496 engine you have now can be built up from the crank and pistons up to give you great reliability, better speed and performance now with your drive up to about 525HP to 550 HP which is going to give you a fair speed increase in a Eliminator cat. When you are ready for more speed have Max Machine Work bullet proof your drive and add the Whipple Supercharger with Dustins programming and you are at 750-800 reliable horsepower and a drive that can take it. In the mean time you can add some sexy stainless headers, blue print the bottom of the cat and not be dealing with a fire breathing dragon that you may not be happy with when done and will probably get you only about 200 real hours between freshenings. As for engine builders I feel Paul Pfaff can take your stock block 496 with our new forged internals and heads and really build you a reliable base engine that you can add to as budget and time allow. I am not trying to sell anything here I just see you tormenting yourself to death with all the possibilities! Boating is suppossed to be fun, enjoy the Ride!
Ray @ Raylar
Watching your posts lately is like watch a tormented cat in a cage. Quit driving your self nuts with all the possibilities. They are endless! If you're not sure of which way to go, approach your project like an erector set so you don't have to experiment with motors and costly drives. You got a nice engine and drive package now, if you take them off and resell, you won't get what there really worth in the mean time. Building a project boat is a lot of the fun and doing in in affordable steps can be lots of fun done right and you will be able to stop when you are comfortable with the total package. The 496 engine you have now can be built up from the crank and pistons up to give you great reliability, better speed and performance now with your drive up to about 525HP to 550 HP which is going to give you a fair speed increase in a Eliminator cat. When you are ready for more speed have Max Machine Work bullet proof your drive and add the Whipple Supercharger with Dustins programming and you are at 750-800 reliable horsepower and a drive that can take it. In the mean time you can add some sexy stainless headers, blue print the bottom of the cat and not be dealing with a fire breathing dragon that you may not be happy with when done and will probably get you only about 200 real hours between freshenings. As for engine builders I feel Paul Pfaff can take your stock block 496 with our new forged internals and heads and really build you a reliable base engine that you can add to as budget and time allow. I am not trying to sell anything here I just see you tormenting yourself to death with all the possibilities! Boating is suppossed to be fun, enjoy the Ride!
Ray @ Raylar
You are exactly correct re: my situation. You have my cell phone number, call me. I am not aware of what forged internals you have. I certainly want to explore all options. If you can't find my cell # PM me or email me.
Thanks
MIke
Re: Pfaff or Teague or ?
09-07-2004 | 11:09 AM
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Re: Pfaff or Teague or ?
pfaff or teague....
just make sure it is the right teague..gary that is...
gt performance in montclair not the other guy over in valencia....
mine is from gt...my buddies is from pfaff...both rock solid motors and both shops know their blower motor/efi tune-ups....
max machine worx on the drive or you will be sorry.....
gm
just make sure it is the right teague..gary that is...
gt performance in montclair not the other guy over in valencia....
mine is from gt...my buddies is from pfaff...both rock solid motors and both shops know their blower motor/efi tune-ups....
max machine worx on the drive or you will be sorry.....
gm
09-08-2004 | 11:10 PM
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Re: Pfaff or Teague or ?
Big opinion difference with experiences here. A buddy bought a 33 Eliminator with Pfaff 1150's in it two summers ago. It has nerver made it thru a summer without repairs & has been down since last August. It broke dry sump brackets, leaked oil like crazy, the intercooler 's were not "o-ringed" as required & did not fit the intakes & leaking air into the cooler & after the blowers. They were also built with Solid rollers rather than hydraulics. Engines lasted about 50 hours before they started breaking down(rockers, push rods & lifters breaking, cams destroyed from metal fragments.. They are in for a total rebuild now. Needless to say, this guy is not a happy camper!!
09-08-2004 | 11:25 PM
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Re: Pfaff or Teague or ?
1150 I would think would have a good bit of boost and be on the ragged edge with that much hp.50 hours would seem about right to me.
Sounds like he had more than a rebuild though
also it depends on how someone ran the motor also.
Sounds like he had more than a rebuild though
also it depends on how someone ran the motor also.
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09-09-2004 | 02:32 PM
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Re: Pfaff or Teague or ?
Originally Posted by blown formula
Big opinion difference with experiences here. A buddy bought a 33 Eliminator with Pfaff 1150's in it two summers ago. It has nerver made it thru a summer without repairs & has been down since last August. It broke dry sump brackets, leaked oil like crazy, the intercooler 's were not "o-ringed" as required & did not fit the intakes & leaking air into the cooler & after the blowers. They were also built with Solid rollers rather than hydraulics. Engines lasted about 50 hours before they started breaking down(rockers, push rods & lifters breaking, cams destroyed from metal fragments.. They are in for a total rebuild now. Needless to say, this guy is not a happy camper!!
