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Old 04-07-2005, 12:20 PM
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RMbuilder,that's correct.Now,we need opinion on orifice diameter of the spray nozzle.The question is;should the diameter change from wet sump to dry sump?
Yes the orifice will vary depending upon blown or N/A and vacuum.
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So its spraying on the thrust side of the pistion
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I was surfing the tech section when I stumbled across this thread.

Piston oilers sound like a great idea for supercharged engines. Keeping the piston cool should help delay detonation all things equal? What about coating the piston? If you do cool the pistons enough will you reduce the amount that they expand and have to change clearances? Who has done this on a supercharged engine and seen increased life and/or detonation protection? Would you talk about it if you had success in this area?

Tomcat did yall get the IAC figured out Wensday? I had a bad one also on the dyno. Weird
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Hi Rob:

We tried replacing the IAC but the engine still stalled going into gear. This is not on the engine that Mark had on the dyno; it goes into gear perfectly. So Mark told them to scan the good engine and duplicate the setting. I'm sure Victory Marine will get this sorted out.

Mark did a good job for us. You may leave with a little less HP than your best pulls, but it's hard to argue with his conservative approach. Good luck with your project!
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Hi Rob:

We tried replacing the IAC but the engine still stalled going into gear. This is not on the engine that Mark had on the dyno; it goes into gear perfectly. So Mark told them to scan the good engine and duplicate the setting. I'm sure Victory Marine will get this sorted out.

Mark did a good job for us. You may leave with a little less HP than your best pulls, but it's hard to argue with his conservative approach. Good luck with your project!
Yea he is conservative which is smart.He is not worried about my motor at that boost just the drives

Yall tried the new wheels yet?

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This month's Hot Rod, that venerable source of knowledge, has an article on the new Caddy Northstar engine. Intercooled Roots blower makes 440 HP. There is a very good photo of the piston sprayers they used. Caddy engineers claim cooling the pistons reduced detonation tendency enough to allow a few more degrees of timing. Check it out.

Thanks Bill, it's an aggravating little problem because the other engine is perfect. Mark gave some more instructions to try this morning and they're going back into the water again today.
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Here is the GM system
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Here is the GM system
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Why is there a groove cut inbetween the 2 main bolt holes?
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What do they coat the pistons with ??? What are the pros and cons of doing this and does it help in keeping it cool...and who does it..

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Old 07-31-2005, 12:46 PM
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Byrdman,The layman's term for the process of piston coating is known as "ceramic coating".The piston dome and /or skirts only can be coated.The process is available as an option from several of the piston manufactures,plus others.The process is thought to be greatly improved over time from when it was started.It has been said,early on the material may have flaked off.One may expect the quench to be effected,plus improved temperature and detonation control.The life expectancy of the coating will be effected by crank to rod ratio not dissimilar from uncoated pistons.However,in my opinion,the piston sprayers are part of that package.
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