Kpm Racing Raw Water Impeller
#51
Talked with KPM Racing yesterday and if you are using the stock sea water bracket you have to drill the 4 hole in the housing. He did say that they will include instruction on the new design.
#52
Registered
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 11
Likes: 0
thankyou for your information;
This product when designed was intended for only a few configurations. Modifications were normally undertaken by engine specialists. I will now create a new part to eliminate the problems that you are having with assembly on certain configurations.
I must say though that every customer that have installed these pumps have been delighted , and to date we have never replaced an impeller.
With reference to the run dry , the kpm pump range have just been solas approved and are the only ones in the world to achieve the new specification. For more information please visit our website. www.teamkpmracing.com
Jules
This product when designed was intended for only a few configurations. Modifications were normally undertaken by engine specialists. I will now create a new part to eliminate the problems that you are having with assembly on certain configurations.
I must say though that every customer that have installed these pumps have been delighted , and to date we have never replaced an impeller.
With reference to the run dry , the kpm pump range have just been solas approved and are the only ones in the world to achieve the new specification. For more information please visit our website. www.teamkpmracing.com
Jules
#53
I just ordered a upgrade body and kit and i am now afraid i ordered the wrong stuff. i thought i had a jabsco pump and i would use the bearing housing and shaft off of that pump and the new KPM assembly. Now find out i have a sherwood pump instead of a jabsco. Will the Sherwood stuff work? Or do i need to find a bravo snout to bolt on to the KPM body?
Last edited by hpy540; 03-02-2006 at 08:27 PM.
#55
beware ive got there complete single stage , likes to vapr lock talked with julian great pump but vapor locks or somthing evertime it looses prime , also had the shaft locking nut strip sent it back to kpm tthey changed the front set up to a much more reliable set up deffinetly the set up id choose . darn near lost the wholr pully off the first type , be sure youre getting water out the back of the boat overheated my boat three times , finally they sent me a sea strainer to try and keeps the prime to the pump , to this day if i loose prime , empty stainer ect , i have to start enging and then loosen output fitting a let it suck air to get prime tightn back up and it seems to keep prime scarry feeling water temp will jump FAST if youre not getting water watch youre gauge . By the way they gave me the strainer for free just for the agravation , top notch people , just cant fiqure out why it woulnt self prime just thought id let you know my foe
#56
I had one of these impellers disintegrate this summer. No blades left in tact. Probably had 20 hours on it. Still waiting on a replacement impeller from Trick Marine. I've called them twice and still nothing. That is surprising because I used to get great service from Fred and company.
The pump on the other engine is still working fine but I am somewhat nervous about why the other one suddenly blew apart. Lucky I didn't melt my KE headers down as I run closed cooling and didn't catch it immediately. That would have been very bad and was why I spent the extra money on these pumps, for the insurance of run dry.
BT
The pump on the other engine is still working fine but I am somewhat nervous about why the other one suddenly blew apart. Lucky I didn't melt my KE headers down as I run closed cooling and didn't catch it immediately. That would have been very bad and was why I spent the extra money on these pumps, for the insurance of run dry.
BT
#57
Originally Posted by TRICK
I think we should replace the pump so we can see what caused the problem.
BT
(Dave Malone)
#58
Originally Posted by TRICK
Dave,
Take the pump off and we'll send you a new replacement with a Fed Ex return label in the box for the old pump. Then there's no cost to you.
Give me a call when you have a chance and we'll get 'er done.
Fred
Take the pump off and we'll send you a new replacement with a Fed Ex return label in the box for the old pump. Then there's no cost to you.
Give me a call when you have a chance and we'll get 'er done.
Fred
Dave
#59
FWIW- I got one of the new single stage dual outlet pumps at
thew beginning of the season- ran great all year- I used the second outlet to feed the intercooler- worked nice and precented me from having to do a transom pickup- can aalways look back and see the IC dumping out the side of the boat so I know all is good
thew beginning of the season- ran great all year- I used the second outlet to feed the intercooler- worked nice and precented me from having to do a transom pickup- can aalways look back and see the IC dumping out the side of the boat so I know all is good
#60
Registered
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by blue thunder
Ok Fred. I would like to have the new pump before I send back the old pump so I can get the 90* fitting indexed right. Its a tight fit with the pan. I'll give you a call.
Dave
Dave
thanks for the info. I have just come out of 3 weeks of testing with the Military with these pumps and we found that we had a random fault just like this.
What caused it ?.
1)It was not the pump. We inspected a hundred impellers to see what we could find and we discovered that running down the base of the impeller was a cold join line caused by the moulding process. This is created by a cold mold when the parts are first run.
2) All KPM pumps are designed to run off standard neoprene impellers , and we discovered in our testing that some of the impellers sent by our US supplier were infact Nitrile. We inspected a complete batch of impellers and out of 300 we found 25. we believe that they tried to make up the batch thinking it would be ok. Well its not OK. And we have let our feelings known to our american cousins.
What we have done about it
We have now Informed our USA suppliers that the first half hour of production is scrapped of , we have to pay a little bit more but it is worth it. We also now 100% inspect every impeller for this fault, in addition to checking the shore hardness of every impeller.
Just a note:
In four years we have sold several thousand pumps and have experienced six impeller failures. We also have experienced situations where the priming has been difficult. In every situation we try to give full attention , and as a number of OSO customers will attest to I personally phone them from england to try to solve the problem. We also will always try and compensate the customer for any inconvenience caused. I also know that fred at trick will also always do the right thing. Thats just the way we are.
We maintain our business by selling a dry run pump , and continue to do so all over the world because we are always looking to improve. I am pleased that the customer has contacted us about his impeller failing since it informs us and keeps us on our toes.
I would like to ask a question " if the impeller had failed in any other pump would you have questioned it ? , or just replaced it. I guess that you would have just accepted it and replaced the impeller.
We try to be decent in an industry that I have found to be prone to be competitive beyond a line we refuse to cross.
Thankyou for your response we will ensure your needs are met
Jules morgan
PS All 2007 pumps are now being supllied to mil spec , and after extensive testing we have decided to extend our warranty. Extra thick anodizing with molbdenum disulphide addative and all seals are PTFE gaskets which are guaranteed for life.



