ALERT !!! Speed Limits on NJ's Waterways
08-07-2008, 11:03 PM
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ALERT !!! Speed Limits on NJ's Waterways
(From the NJPPC President)
"I am not sure if many of you are yet aware of Senator Sarlo's intentions to bring forward a bill that would require a 10mph speed limit at night on NJ's waterways?
New Jersey already has some of the toughest safe boating laws in the country. We also have laws against driving and drinking. We have laws that require proper lights on all boats at night. We have laws that require that you drive at a safe speed based upon current conditions.
New Jersey is doing a great job of protecting boaters through it's current laws and setting a great example to other states. I do not know why Senator Sarlo is convinced we need Speed Limits on the tidal waters at night?
If someone drinks and drives a boat at night, or takes drugs and drives a boat at night, or drives at any speed without running lights, or operates a boat without a proper legal certification they are already breaking current laws. Senator Sarlo is trying to penalize the many for the possible sins of a few. Those that wish to break the law will not be any more careful because of the potential new law.
I make no assumptions or accusations in this current tragedy on the Metedeconk River because we do not know the facts.
We believe that the real issue at hand is that the State Police Marine Bureau is currently way under funded and they have a limited or non-existent current presence on the water. We believe that additional funding is needed so that there can be a greater State Police presence on the water to enforce all of the existing laws. That we believe would make all of NJ's waterways safer."
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From Sharkey:
I would like to take this time to make you all aware that the Boating Regulation Commission mainly Roger Brown is ready to put a Speed Limit on NJ's Waterways.
"I'd very much like to push it (a speed limit) through," Roger K. Brown of Brick, commission chairman and a boater, said Tuesday. Brown said he will bring copies of news stories about the fatal accident to the other eight members of the commission. The panel next meets at 10 a.m. Sept. 10 in Margate.
This comes just 3 days after the boating accident on the Metedeconk River in which State Police Sgt. Julian Castellanos said, " the victims were not speeding" "They were traveling at a normal speed," Castellanos said.
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...=2008808040345
State Police Sgt. Stephen Jones has said, "the preliminary evidence indicates that both boats were moving at the time of the crash," with no comment as to whether speed-ing was involved.
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...=2008808060401
We all had to stop this back in 2003 and now we need to ban together to keep it from happening again. If you think it will only be for night time, think again. Once they get part of the pie they are going to want the rest of it eventually and they will get it if we don't stop them now.
Please help us in this fight, before all New Jersey waterways become all No Wake Zones.
Thank you !
"I am not sure if many of you are yet aware of Senator Sarlo's intentions to bring forward a bill that would require a 10mph speed limit at night on NJ's waterways?
New Jersey already has some of the toughest safe boating laws in the country. We also have laws against driving and drinking. We have laws that require proper lights on all boats at night. We have laws that require that you drive at a safe speed based upon current conditions.
New Jersey is doing a great job of protecting boaters through it's current laws and setting a great example to other states. I do not know why Senator Sarlo is convinced we need Speed Limits on the tidal waters at night?
If someone drinks and drives a boat at night, or takes drugs and drives a boat at night, or drives at any speed without running lights, or operates a boat without a proper legal certification they are already breaking current laws. Senator Sarlo is trying to penalize the many for the possible sins of a few. Those that wish to break the law will not be any more careful because of the potential new law.
I make no assumptions or accusations in this current tragedy on the Metedeconk River because we do not know the facts.
We believe that the real issue at hand is that the State Police Marine Bureau is currently way under funded and they have a limited or non-existent current presence on the water. We believe that additional funding is needed so that there can be a greater State Police presence on the water to enforce all of the existing laws. That we believe would make all of NJ's waterways safer."
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From Sharkey:
I would like to take this time to make you all aware that the Boating Regulation Commission mainly Roger Brown is ready to put a Speed Limit on NJ's Waterways.
"I'd very much like to push it (a speed limit) through," Roger K. Brown of Brick, commission chairman and a boater, said Tuesday. Brown said he will bring copies of news stories about the fatal accident to the other eight members of the commission. The panel next meets at 10 a.m. Sept. 10 in Margate.
This comes just 3 days after the boating accident on the Metedeconk River in which State Police Sgt. Julian Castellanos said, " the victims were not speeding" "They were traveling at a normal speed," Castellanos said.
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...=2008808040345
State Police Sgt. Stephen Jones has said, "the preliminary evidence indicates that both boats were moving at the time of the crash," with no comment as to whether speed-ing was involved.
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...=2008808060401
We all had to stop this back in 2003 and now we need to ban together to keep it from happening again. If you think it will only be for night time, think again. Once they get part of the pie they are going to want the rest of it eventually and they will get it if we don't stop them now.
Please help us in this fight, before all New Jersey waterways become all No Wake Zones.
Thank you !
08-13-2008, 05:31 PM
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WOW ! 
Not one opinion in 5 days ?
Is it not worth the fight anymore ?
"A long-debated attempt to impose speed limits on the Barnegat Bay and other waterways in New Jersey gained new life today when a state senator suggested restricting night-time boat speed to 10 mph."
Or perhaps people did not see that the senator wants to impose a:
Not one opinion in 5 days ?
Is it not worth the fight anymore ?
"A long-debated attempt to impose speed limits on the Barnegat Bay and other waterways in New Jersey gained new life today when a state senator suggested restricting night-time boat speed to 10 mph."
Or perhaps people did not see that the senator wants to impose a:
08-13-2008, 05:33 PM
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This is the racers section, Tim
And thanks But I live in Florida!!!
Hope all is well!!
pete
And thanks But I live in Florida!!!
Hope all is well!!
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08-13-2008, 07:53 PM
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I was trying to reach out to the Racers of NJ that test in the very same waters they will be looking to put a speed limit on.
Don't think this group will stop at only a night time speed limit.
They will try to get the night limit then work on the day time limit as well ...
If they get this, it is a long way to the ocean no matter where you are on the Barnegat Bay and elsewhere at 30 mph or less...
Should make it real fun trying to test props.
North Jersey should be concerned as well.
Last time they tried to get a speed limit they wanted it on ALL NJ Waterways...
08-22-2008, 07:32 AM
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I just found this this morning on another site:
If the powerboaters of NJ don't do something soon, rest assured there will be a limit on how fast you can go on the waterways of NJ.
Read this morning that sarno's office is promoting a petition drive FOR the limit!!!Lets all get our own letters out there. How about a caravan to Margate next month for the hearings??
Just sent this to all-
Dear ________________
This very old proposal for speed limits on the Barnegat Bay should not have been resurrected as it has.
The FACTS speak for themselves:
1) We can not enforce the laws we already have.
2) Only seven percent of boating fatalities relate to speed.
3) Only twelve percent of all boating accidents relate to speed.
4) The state police have stated that measuring speed on water is at best very difficult.
5) The thirty MPH limit is the "wake zone" for many larger boats, where the most damage is done to the ecology.
There are many more reasons to oppose this legislation if you take the time to research it.
Thank you for listening,
Just sent this to all-
Dear ________________
This very old proposal for speed limits on the Barnegat Bay should not have been resurrected as it has.
The FACTS speak for themselves:
1) We can not enforce the laws we already have.
2) Only seven percent of boating fatalities relate to speed.
3) Only twelve percent of all boating accidents relate to speed.
4) The state police have stated that measuring speed on water is at best very difficult.
5) The thirty MPH limit is the "wake zone" for many larger boats, where the most damage is done to the ecology.
There are many more reasons to oppose this legislation if you take the time to research it.
Thank you for listening,
If the powerboaters of NJ don't do something soon, rest assured there will be a limit on how fast you can go on the waterways of NJ.
09-09-2008, 08:26 PM
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30 Mph Day Time Speed Limit ???
How does everyone feel about doing 30 mph on all NJ Inland Waterways during the day ???
According to Save Barnegat Bay's President Willie de Camp, "People who need to go faster can go out in the ocean."
Anyone that can possibly make it to the NJ Boating Regulation Commission meeting please do so. Now is the time to stop this from going through.
I have already sent a care package for this meeting. It will certainly open some eyes but I am not sure if it will keep them from passing the new law of 30 mph speed limit.
Read the full story from today's Asbury Park Press:
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...=2008809090345
According to Save Barnegat Bay's President Willie de Camp, "People who need to go faster can go out in the ocean."
Anyone that can possibly make it to the NJ Boating Regulation Commission meeting please do so. Now is the time to stop this from going through.
I have already sent a care package for this meeting. It will certainly open some eyes but I am not sure if it will keep them from passing the new law of 30 mph speed limit.
Read the full story from today's Asbury Park Press:
http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/art...=2008809090345
09-10-2008, 02:46 AM
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OK!!!!! We have completed the "TRUTH ABOUT BOATING ACCIDENTS AND WHY SPEED LIMITS ARE NOT THE ANSWER TO SAFER BOATING IN NJ!" 36 pages in length!
This is what I am presenting tomorrow morning to the NJ Boat Regulation Commission as well as printing hundreds of copies to share with every State Senator and Assemblyman to spread the FACTS not some half baked idea by an opportunist politician!
VISIT www.njppc.com and download your copy!
PS...Sharkey thanks for the pics!
This is what I am presenting tomorrow morning to the NJ Boat Regulation Commission as well as printing hundreds of copies to share with every State Senator and Assemblyman to spread the FACTS not some half baked idea by an opportunist politician!
VISIT www.njppc.com and download your copy!
PS...Sharkey thanks for the pics!
I will note, the photos were taken in the No Wake Zone that was specificly extended after the Mayor of Mantoloking was asking for the entire town be a No Wake Zone back in 2003 when they were pushing for speed limits.
09-10-2008, 03:05 PM
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A victory for today but now it is time to tackle Senator Sarlo!
September 10, 2008
State Boat Regulation Commission considers speed limits on Barnegat Bay
KIRK MOORE
STAFF WRITER
MARGATE -- Advocates and opponents of proposed boat speed limits on New Jersey coastal waters made their arguments to the state Boat Regulation Commission today, and commission chairman Roger K. Brown said he thinks it unlikely that a broad speed limit can be imposed on Barnegat Bay.
Brown said it's more likely that the commission might recommend expanding no-wake zones, as it did in 2003 when powerboat enthusiasts and critics last grappled over speed, noise and traffic on the bay.
"Maybe we need to look at that again...but to put a speed limit on the whole of Barnegat Bay doesn't make sense,'' Brown said, after a crowd of about 25 boaters spent the morning making their views known to the advisory panel. The commissioners did not take any action and they will discuss the issue again at their November meeting, Brown said.
The Aug. 2 death of Robert Post of Essex Fells in a boat collision led to renewed calls for speed limits, and an announcement from state Sen. Paul sarlo, D-Bergen, that he will proposed legislation to establish a 10 mph nighttime speed limit.
Five weeks after the crash that killed Post, "we know nothing more than was initially reported,'' said David Patnaude, president of the New Jersey Performance Powerboat Club, speaking against speed limits. "But yet three days later...Senator Sarlo came out and said it was necessary to have a 10 mph speed limit at night.''
Speed limit supporters, most of them from northern Barnegat Bay towns, said a speed limit is needed for safety and to reduce the inimidation felt by small-boat sailors and parents.
Reckless boating in the northern bay is "at a crisis level,'' said Jim Cadranell of Point Pleasant. ""On the Metedeconk River....many powerboats weave their way through small boats at 40 to 50 mph.''
September 10, 2008
State Boat Regulation Commission considers speed limits on Barnegat Bay
KIRK MOORE
STAFF WRITER
MARGATE -- Advocates and opponents of proposed boat speed limits on New Jersey coastal waters made their arguments to the state Boat Regulation Commission today, and commission chairman Roger K. Brown said he thinks it unlikely that a broad speed limit can be imposed on Barnegat Bay.
Brown said it's more likely that the commission might recommend expanding no-wake zones, as it did in 2003 when powerboat enthusiasts and critics last grappled over speed, noise and traffic on the bay.
"Maybe we need to look at that again...but to put a speed limit on the whole of Barnegat Bay doesn't make sense,'' Brown said, after a crowd of about 25 boaters spent the morning making their views known to the advisory panel. The commissioners did not take any action and they will discuss the issue again at their November meeting, Brown said.
The Aug. 2 death of Robert Post of Essex Fells in a boat collision led to renewed calls for speed limits, and an announcement from state Sen. Paul sarlo, D-Bergen, that he will proposed legislation to establish a 10 mph nighttime speed limit.
Five weeks after the crash that killed Post, "we know nothing more than was initially reported,'' said David Patnaude, president of the New Jersey Performance Powerboat Club, speaking against speed limits. "But yet three days later...Senator Sarlo came out and said it was necessary to have a 10 mph speed limit at night.''
Speed limit supporters, most of them from northern Barnegat Bay towns, said a speed limit is needed for safety and to reduce the inimidation felt by small-boat sailors and parents.
Reckless boating in the northern bay is "at a crisis level,'' said Jim Cadranell of Point Pleasant. ""On the Metedeconk River....many powerboats weave their way through small boats at 40 to 50 mph.''
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