Powerboat Racing's next chapter...
11-04-2009 | 03:23 PM
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From: Argyle, TX
And for the mercedes boat, shame that it happened to it, but possibly the event insurance, or security reasons, might have been some stipulations who knows but the person that has the (control) at the worlds.
11-05-2009 | 01:21 AM
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one big scam
(JC) NEED TO GIVE IT UP !F%&*
UP A GREAT TV DEAL AGAIN ,HE DONT CARE ABOUT BOAT COUNT OR THE SPORT HE JUST CARES ABUT THE MONEY
UP A GREAT TV DEAL AGAIN ,HE DONT CARE ABOUT BOAT COUNT OR THE SPORT HE JUST CARES ABUT THE MONEYAnything New about SBI on television?
Anyone? Anyone?
Nothing... I guess like last year in New York when John Carbonell said for all the teams to get to the event, because sponsors will be there. Danny Gadarian promised a party at the Hard Rock Casino... Then you guys show up and have a party under a tent, in the rain, at a park! That's all it takes to keep you coming back for more!
I guess having John Carbonell and Danny Gadarian, tell all of you and the whole world, via press releases and media quotes, that the SBI season will be broadcast on CBS Sports Spectacular, starting Oct 3rd, 2009! Then showing up at a drivers meeting in Clearwater and admitting they didn't get it done! That's all it takes...
They (SBI) did replace the event sponsor page info for the Clearwater race with the truth, taking down what was previously published on SBI's website.
It included Hard Rock and the Seminole Indian Tribal Council's logo's as sponsors of our race event in Clearwater!
Let's see what JC spins this time... Like a race schedule he promotes that has only a few sites that actually pay the sanctioning fee! It would be interesting to hear what he tells the race committee's that actually pay, how he justifies who he does and doesn't charge!
The racers need to end this debacle, they are the only ones that can! Stand up and do something about this guys!
Coach
Anyone? Anyone?
Nothing... I guess like last year in New York when John Carbonell said for all the teams to get to the event, because sponsors will be there. Danny Gadarian promised a party at the Hard Rock Casino... Then you guys show up and have a party under a tent, in the rain, at a park! That's all it takes to keep you coming back for more!
I guess having John Carbonell and Danny Gadarian, tell all of you and the whole world, via press releases and media quotes, that the SBI season will be broadcast on CBS Sports Spectacular, starting Oct 3rd, 2009! Then showing up at a drivers meeting in Clearwater and admitting they didn't get it done! That's all it takes...
They (SBI) did replace the event sponsor page info for the Clearwater race with the truth, taking down what was previously published on SBI's website.
It included Hard Rock and the Seminole Indian Tribal Council's logo's as sponsors of our race event in Clearwater!
Let's see what JC spins this time... Like a race schedule he promotes that has only a few sites that actually pay the sanctioning fee! It would be interesting to hear what he tells the race committee's that actually pay, how he justifies who he does and doesn't charge!
The racers need to end this debacle, they are the only ones that can! Stand up and do something about this guys!
Coach
11-05-2009 | 01:51 AM
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VERRY TRUE ON THAT !
Ya know if your that mad at a person, orginization, take it up with them. Sometimes (most) posting this negativity vendeta type of stuff never works and more often that people think runs off a possible potential sponsor for a team when they (potentual sponsors) read this junk. It puts a little hesitation in em.
11-05-2009 | 06:37 PM
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I thought about it but Augie's quote makes me smile every time I read it 
Besides, the inside scoop says the TV thing isnt dead .... just delayed.... and until it happens or until we know for sure the plug has been pulled, people are going to keep asking about it. We know there is film. Even if it never makes it to CBS, I think it would be cool to see somebody do something with it.... even if it only makes it to youtube 
Besides, the inside scoop says the TV thing isnt dead .... just delayed.... and until it happens or until we know for sure the plug has been pulled, people are going to keep asking about it. We know there is film. Even if it never makes it to CBS, I think it would be cool to see somebody do something with it.... even if it only makes it to youtube So, for 8 one hour shows, you are looking at $1,800,000-$2,000,000+
Now, for that, you receive 11 minutes (22 :30's) of commercials to sell within that hour, and all of the in-show content (billboards, leader boards, on-screen graphics& mentions, etc...)
So, just to break even, you need to sell each of those 22 :30 second commercials for $12,000 or so...That's a lot for a Saturday afternoon..Not prime time, competing with Top 25 College football, NASCAR, etc...That's a ton of $$$ per spot unless it pulls a 1.5 rating, and that is impossible unless the sport builds a huge following for a long time...To give you an example, NHL hockey barely pulls a 0.9-1.0, and NASCAR is lucky to pull a 4.0...and NASCAR spots are $60,000+ per :30, and the vast majority of those are bought by existing team sponsors, so their activation opportunity is somewhat limited in options so NASCAR and their networks have them by the balls to begin with...
It doesn't have a valuable targeted and coveted audience...No ratings history, no live elements, national press coverage, established major fan base, strong event attendance...etc...
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11-05-2009 | 07:24 PM
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RaceGirl...Not sure if you and everyone else saw it or not, but in the General Boating Thread, someone was asking about the TV deal, and I mentioned that the TV time costs exactly $200,000 per broadcast hour PLUS production (even tape delayed for a month, you still need 8-10 fly packs and a crew if 12-15 guys MINIMUM to put any kind of cool show together...EASY $30,000-$50,00 per show just in production cost alone...)
We have so many interesting characters in offshore, so many really good stories and story tellers .... and then you look at the stupid reality shows that are already on Tv. It would just take the right person with the right connections selling the right pitch line to the right network. Am I looking for it next year? No. Was I looking for it this year? No. But Ive said many many times. Its all about timing. Im just not willing to say never yet. Specially when Lorenzo Lamas has a show. We cant be any worse than that
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11-06-2009 | 08:27 AM
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Viability! Viability! Viability!
RaceGirl...Not sure if you and everyone else saw it or not, but in the General Boating Thread, someone was asking about the TV deal, and I mentioned that the TV time costs exactly $200,000 per broadcast hour PLUS production (even tape delayed for a month, you still need 8-10 fly packs and a crew if 12-15 guys MINIMUM to put any kind of cool show together...EASY $30,000-$50,00 per show just in production cost alone...)
So, for 8 one hour shows, you are looking at $1,800,000-$2,000,000+
Now, for that, you receive 11 minutes (22 :30's) of commercials to sell within that hour, and all of the in-show content (billboards, leader boards, on-screen graphics& mentions, etc...)
So, just to break even, you need to sell each of those 22 :30 second commercials for $12,000 or so...That's a lot for a Saturday afternoon..Not prime time, competing with Top 25 College football, NASCAR, etc...That's a ton of $$$ per spot unless it pulls a 1.5 rating, and that is impossible unless the sport builds a huge following for a long time...To give you an example, NHL hockey barely pulls a 0.9-1.0, and NASCAR is lucky to pull a 4.0...and NASCAR spots are $60,000+ per :30, and the vast majority of those are bought by existing team sponsors, so their activation opportunity is somewhat limited in options so NASCAR and their networks have them by the balls to begin with...
It doesn't have a valuable targeted and coveted audience...No ratings history, no live elements, national press coverage, established major fan base, strong event attendance...etc...
So, for 8 one hour shows, you are looking at $1,800,000-$2,000,000+
Now, for that, you receive 11 minutes (22 :30's) of commercials to sell within that hour, and all of the in-show content (billboards, leader boards, on-screen graphics& mentions, etc...)
So, just to break even, you need to sell each of those 22 :30 second commercials for $12,000 or so...That's a lot for a Saturday afternoon..Not prime time, competing with Top 25 College football, NASCAR, etc...That's a ton of $$$ per spot unless it pulls a 1.5 rating, and that is impossible unless the sport builds a huge following for a long time...To give you an example, NHL hockey barely pulls a 0.9-1.0, and NASCAR is lucky to pull a 4.0...and NASCAR spots are $60,000+ per :30, and the vast majority of those are bought by existing team sponsors, so their activation opportunity is somewhat limited in options so NASCAR and their networks have them by the balls to begin with...
It doesn't have a valuable targeted and coveted audience...No ratings history, no live elements, national press coverage, established major fan base, strong event attendance...etc...
Push everyone, PUSH!
Coach
