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VinMan 08-18-2003 12:59 PM


Originally posted by sharkeymarine
VinMan, Are you not getting enough positive airflow in there now?:confused:
Tim, the only air intake is two 12"x3" grilles on the side of the deck about a foot from the transom and the exhaust grilles are right behind them on the transom, so theres is no air in the front of the engine compartment, that kills the availble combustion air also.

I'm not positive that was the problem, but both motors had the same symptoms, lost the same power, at the same time. Ran great for 3 laps , started losin rpms and power gradually. so i just pulled off the course.

Might be a fuel prob, but i doubt it. havent had a chance to look at it yet, but the air thing seems most likely. :confused:

Vinny

VinMan 08-18-2003 01:02 PM


Originally posted by Peconic
Someone pls educate me on those NACA ducts.
Bert, NACA ducts ar used alot on race cars, they use them for brake cooling alot and for air into the passenger compartment, the shape of them speeds up the airflow using a venturi effect , and the fact that they are recessed cuts down the drag.
Also you can mount them for the best airflow and run a hose off the duct to where you want the airflow

SHARKEY-IMAGES 08-18-2003 01:44 PM

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I made these single ducts and flush mounted them on each side to increase air flow into the canopy.

Marty, your PM was replied to...;)

SHARKEY-IMAGES 08-18-2003 01:57 PM

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Try a little closer:

ScottB 08-18-2003 02:06 PM

I have 4 and no scoop, they work great. Peconic, check out Pantera , www.panteraboats.com Pantera puts NACA ducts on their boats and you can see the application on some boats

SHARKEY-IMAGES 08-18-2003 02:07 PM

Vin & Marty,
After looking at your hatches, I don't think the placement of the Naca Ducts would work on the hatches themselves. The air coming off your fairing will go right over your helmets and clearly miss the hatches. If you do mount them there, keep them far towards the back. You may consider other areas to put them. Before the fairing on the deck or slip the Single ones on the sides of the deck if you have the height. Just a thought.
This was one of the reasons for having such height on the Haulin' Glass boat. To be high enough to grab the air moving towards the back of the boat after passing the cockpit.
:eureka:

BODYSHOT1 08-18-2003 02:28 PM

Tim...Velocity mounts them on the side of the deck....I'll give them a call...

Thanks..

Marty

SHARKEY-IMAGES 08-18-2003 02:50 PM


Originally posted by BODYSHOT1
Tim...Velocity mounts them on the side of the deck....I'll give them a call...

Thanks..

Marty

Great! Then they will probably already have them in stock.
Thanks again for the offer Marty! It's appreciated. I guess if Verizon went out on strike I would be taking in as much work as possible...:D
I did that a few years back, and they settled so damn quick I was backed up with 3 weeks of side work in just 2 days......:eek:
This time I am pacing myself.......;) :D :D :D

Peconic 08-18-2003 08:16 PM


Originally posted by VinMan
Bert, NACA ducts ar used alot on race cars, they use them for brake cooling alot and for air into the passenger compartment, the shape of them speeds up the airflow using a venturi effect , and the fact that they are recessed cuts down the drag.


Highly interesting. Now we are talking. Where would I get some?

Ron P 08-18-2003 08:35 PM

here ya go

SHARKEY-IMAGES 08-19-2003 06:04 AM

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Originally posted by Peconic
Highly interesting. Now we are talking. Where would I get some?
Here is one place: www.quickcar.net/

A better picture of how they can look:

Peconic 08-19-2003 06:21 AM

Thanks, Sharkey. I like that very much.

SHARKEY-IMAGES 08-19-2003 06:24 AM

They look awesome once molded and blended right into the glass.

VinMan 08-19-2003 06:37 AM


Originally posted by sharkeymarine
Great! Then they will probably already have them in stock.
Thanks again for the offer Marty! It's appreciated. I guess if Verizon went out on strike I would be taking in as much work as possible...:D
I did that a few years back, and they settled so damn quick I was backed up with 3 weeks of side work in just 2 days......:eek:
This time I am pacing myself.......;) :D :D :D

I thought for sure we'd be out on strike, was counting on the time off to get some work done.(not that i could afford to be out of work:rolleyes: ).

SHARKEY-IMAGES 08-19-2003 06:47 AM


Originally posted by VinMan
I thought for sure we'd be out on strike, was counting on the time off to get some work done.(not that i could afford to be out of work:rolleyes: ).
VinMan, You work for Verizon?:confused:

Peconic 08-19-2003 07:12 AM


Originally posted by sharkeymarine
VinMan, You work for Verizon?:confused:

We all do, come bill paying time ....

SHARKEY-IMAGES 08-19-2003 07:45 AM

:D :D :D :D :D

BRUCE SEROFF 08-19-2003 07:49 AM

Boy... this thread has taken a major turn from the topic

WAZZZUP wit dat????

SHARKEY-IMAGES 08-19-2003 10:05 AM

You're right Bruce... How's this? ;)

Some glass guy out of Point Pleasant would build those vents for you.....;) :D :D :D

VinMan 08-19-2003 12:07 PM


Originally posted by sharkeymarine
VinMan, You work for Verizon?:confused:
Yep 19 yrs with that warm, caring Co.:rolleyes: :D

mr_velocity 08-19-2003 03:20 PM

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I have 3 NACA ducts on each side that feed into stainless ductwork. When the hatch is closed the flame arrestors actually sit inside the duct breathing nice cool air. The stainless "coffee cans" that the arrestors sit on work like a velocity stack.

TYPHOON 08-19-2003 08:39 PM

Clean air is nice but that is NOT your problem!!! Look deeper and you will find something other than air.
MD:confused:

BODYSHOT1 08-20-2003 09:28 AM


Originally posted by TYPHOON
Clean air is nice but that is NOT your problem!!! Look deeper and you will find something other than air.
MD:confused:

:confused: :confused:

SHARKEY-IMAGES 08-20-2003 10:34 AM

For starters, try testing the boat with the hatches off the boat. See what your results are. If you have a similiar trouble, then you can rule out the amount of air theory......;)


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