JOE HOW ABOUT TWO BLADES AND 5000HP,THOSE GUYS ARE NUTS.

MIKE A
I agree with the 496 engine choice. Slow the F-1 & F-2 classes don, make it more affordable and safer for the racers and their families. Brian and I fot out of F-1 ( F1-15 Team Aquadisiac ) and went to pokerruns because too many people were getting hurt and/or killed. If we slow the boats down mabe you'll see us back racing F-1 again. For us Canadians we also need someone in Canada to seal the engines. WE can't afford to send our engines to Innovation for service if we have a problem. Maybe you could give Raymond Roberts at Double R Performancea a call and see if he would be interested in sealing the engines for ABPA. He can be reached at 1-705-487-7575 or faxed at 1-705-487-5993.

Take care and Have a Merry Christmas

Kevin Adams

Joey,

I'm sure your talking about the proposal, not the actual propeller rules which have not changed.

5. Approved Propellers - Cast propellers must be approved by APBA. Three and four blade cast propellers manufactured Mercury, Hering and Hydromotive, five blade cast propellers by Hydromotive and Hering and six blade cast propellers by Hering are approved. Other manufacturers of cast propellers may apply to APBA for approval based on the following criteria:

Jim

why do people keep saying factory racing (II) is "getting" too fast...the speed ware boat and the old utz(aka harwich concrete) STILL hold both the kilo records and have more podium boats finishes that any other F2 boat...AND when were those boats built???...by the way, speed ware still uses the 500hp carb'ed engines.

generally when people think or racing, they don't really think of it as a safe practice!

one more thing, everyone that has complained about the safety of these boats, i'm sure i could find that they have made their boat 100% safe as possible...seats that go over the top of your legs,everything properly padded, covered, great footing placement??... it's a long list!...AND i am sure they choose the very best safety equipment out there too??

Jim, i take it you have not read the "new" rules this week??...there are no provision for the use of anything with more than 4 blades...OR have i missed something??

Joe ,

you know that the GLSCS is no longer APBA affiliated ???

There rules i havent a clue about at this point

I am not sure they have there scheduale put together for this year

The GLSCS web site has been almost as inactive as APBA web site latley

Must be the time of year

yeah, i did...but, i did not know if anyone else did at this point.

Joey,

I just downloaded the rules again from the APBA web site. What I posted from page 80 of the Technical Rules is still correct. Please point me to the official rule change you found that says the no 5 or 6 blade props in the factory series. I run a 5 blade so I'm very interested in this topic.

Thank you.

Jim

excerpt:


7. Claiming Rule - Any propeller may be “claimed” (bought) within one (1)
hour after any racing event by another competitor in the same class. A competitor may purchase propellers used in that race in accordance with the following schedule:

Mercury Mirage $750.00
Mercury Bravo I $850.00
Hydromotive 4 Blade Bravo $850.00
Hering 4 Blade Bravo $1150.00

$50.00 of the claiming fee will be retained by APBA-Offshore for Technical and inspection fees. Payment must be made in cash certified funds or by personal check, provided, however, APBA retains custody of propeller(s) pending clearance of personal checks and completion of Tech Inspection of propellers. The competitor must notify the Referee or Inspector of his/her intent to claim a propeller within the specified time limit. The Referee or Inspector shall accompany the competitor making the claim to the boat and owner of the propeller being claimed and make sure the transaction is accomplished without incident. Propellers used in the race may not be removed from the boats until the one-hour claiming period is over. Anyone removing a propeller from a race boat prior to the one-hour claiming period shall be subject to disqualification from that event and a fine not to exceed $1000.00. Owners may not leave the race site during the one-hour claiming period to avoid claims upon their equipment. Owner leaving the race site during the one hour claiming period in order to avoid claims upon their equipment shall be disqualified from that event. The failure of the owner to sell said propeller shall result in suspension of the boat and owner from further competition for a period not less than 180 days from the date that the claim is made. Claims for propellers may be made only for entries finishing ahead of the claimant. In case of multiple claims, the lower place finisher has priority. Competitors shall be limited to claiming one (1) propeller (or set of propellers) per event.

Joey, are those the proposed rules for discussion? The web site still has this posted:


Miklos or Alweiss, jump in here anytime.

Thanks

Jim



7. Claiming Rule - Any propeller may be “claimed” (bought) within one (1)
hour after any racing event by another competitor in the same class. A competitor may purchase propellers used in that race in accordance with the following schedule:

Mercury Mirage $750.00
Mercury Bravo I $850.00
Hydromotive 4 Blade Bravo $850.00
Hering 4 Blade Bravo $1150.00
Outboard 3 Blade Cleaver $850.00
Outboard 4 Blade Cleaver $1050.00
Hydromotive and Hering 5 Blade Bravo $1650.00
Hering 6 Blade Bravo $1700.00
$50.00 of the claiming fee will be retained by APBA-Offshore for Technical and inspection fees. Payment must be made in cash certified funds or by personal check, provided, however, APBA retains custody of propeller(s) pending clearance of personal checks and completion of Tech Inspection of propellers. The competitor must notify the Referee or Inspector of his/her intent to claim a propeller within the specified time limit. The Referee or Inspector shall accompany the competitor making the claim to the boat and owner of the propeller being claimed and make sure the transaction is accomplished without incident. Propellers used in the race may not be removed from the boats until the one-hour claiming period is over. Anyone removing a propeller from a race boat prior to