THESE ARE THE PROPOSED RULES FOR DISCUSSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

whatever happen to "no rule changes for 2004"??? and talking about 2005 and beyond??

Joey,

From Orange Beach on, it's been no rule changes...unless the class agreed to a change then the rule makers would review it. A few F1 guys have ask for a 1+1+1 proposal from APBA. APBA posted one for discussion. Some like it, some don't, and some don't care. And here we are today... with no rule changes in Factory Class which is all I care about. At least were having some good discussion.

Jim

OK...Mike, will there be ANY rule changes for 2004 in factory?? and the ones on the ORL site will be 100% unchanged for 2004? the "proposed" rules are for 2005 and beyond only?

DISCLAIMER!!!!! FOOD FOR THOUGHT PURPOSES ONLY.

We can create two new classes around the 496HO and call them Manufacturers or Stock Class, and leave our Factory classes alone for now. Let the market decide which is the product that will survive long term. I would bet that a manufacturer might even step up to be the title sponsor of such a series.

OK - twolk among yourselves. I am verklempt.

Mike

I think what Mike is saying is that if there are not some substantial changes to Factory class in the coming weeks there may be no class at all. I believe that the purpose of changing would be to attract more participants into the class. I can understand Joe's frustration though because he has a boat that runs well and is dialed in.

From a newcomers perspective I have always had concerns about getting ejected from a factory boat at speeds over 90mph. If the rule changes bring the speeds down I am fine. I just want there to be as many boats as possible in my class.

Joey,

If the majority of team owners tell us to adopt the proposed rules then we will. If not then we won't. Or we can adopt two new classes if that is what people want. If you are not racing with us though why are you showing so much concern? Not attacking you. Just asking.

mike

never said we were not racing...i just want to know what and where!...last year the rule change on the 525 had us removing 500's from the boat...then steve simon requested that ted z. put the rule changes in writing and fax to him so he could complete the building of our race boat...the boat was completed and dialed in by december...then the sportmaster decision came out...then the weight changes...leaving us 4 lowers used and useless...damn near double the max weight ted told steve...and the engines had to come back out!....well, it's damn near january....there should be no talk of what the rules are going to be for 2004???SHOULD have been done long ago.

your right...it does piss me off...your last minute rule changes cost us a lot of $$ and an A$$ LOAD of time!...here we are again...engines may need to come back out...drives not legal!...transom needs to be cleared again, plugged, engine mounts refabed...on and on...props not legal...Mike i'm just ecstatic about doing all this work again in less than 13 months...all to go slower and backward in technology.

OK Joey. You do not have to do anything if you do not want to. And maybe everyone says to draft the rules for two new classes and we end up leaving Factory as is.

Mike