Jacks On The Water
 

anybody been by jacks to see if there opening anytime soon,,i know there is a new onwer

They will be open very soon. Yes they have new owners and also the olds Jacks in Wyandotte will be open I think May 2nd also owned by the same guy. Both places have been updating and remodeling. Wyandotte has made big changes to the restraunt and will be open year round.
I have been working with them on the remodel in Wyandotte, It will be a great stop for lunch and night life. The new docks will be going in very soon.

Will there be docks big enough for the offshore crowd in wyandotte ? Would be a huge plus if so.

Yes but the problem is that it is one dock along the river and it will probably be to rough to raft until the police get everyone to understand that it will be a no wake zone. Even then I am not so sure that it will be calm enfough.
I belive the dock will be 170'. dont quote me on that
And I dont think it will be a seawall, probably just poles making it difficult to use bumpers.
I will check on the details tomorrow.

I was just by there last weekend and didn't think to stop.

I thought that Jacks had new owners last year that where the original owners...So now they have new owners again this year?

They took their sign off the building in Wyandotte a couple of weeks ago.....

That place SUCKED (IMO)when it was Bobs Boat House. Crappy service and it turned into fight club at night. I hope it doesn't turn into the same $hit hole. I live only about 1/2 mile away. So it would be nice to have a decent place to have a nice dinner..........

Jacks on the lake got the old owners back last year. Im not so sure about the one downriver i think the marina next to it took the property back and will be reopening it this spring.

The owner of the property in Wyandotte leased it to the guy who owned Jacks in St Clair. I know that the guy did not pay his bills and to my understanding he lost both places to the property owner in Wyandotte and he is reopening both places.
They say the trash will be run out before any problems start.

Sounds good, would be nice to have a decent place to be able to stop for dinner and drinks, I would suggest they atleast put the mooring poles in square pattern so you can sling the boats with no wake issues then, not to hard to do and would bring in much more boat traffic. 170' dock with poles spaced out 20 or so feet out from the dock would do it. They have to remember boaters spend money and attract a good crowd, hopefully they keep the A holes out this time, my brother in law was one of the DJ's there and he used to pack the place in pretty good.

Hope they spend some money on floating docks with some good padding on the sides to protect the boats. It would also make it easier for boaters to get into and out of their boats when water levels change. The docks are just as important as the restaurant to boaters who spend thousands on their boats.

170 ft of dock thats should hold, coast guard,wayne county sheriff,dnr,boarder patrol,grosse ile police,wyandotte police,opp did i forget anyone?? another fun year of boating in michigan no wonder why i like flordia boating better

Have to meet up with you this year, watched your videos you took from the fall run, good job on location.

Docks and no-wake
 

This is good stuff, long overdue.

The biggest issue will be wakes on that part of the river. What exactly is the no-wake zone around there? Wyandotte is supposed to be 500yds from shore (I believe). The question is: how far from shore are the red markers that mark the eastern side of that channel?

I have cranked through that area hundreds of times on plane, and as long as I hugged the red markers, I never had any issues with the law.

Will this change?

Thanks,
Brian

Brain!

You have cranked through that area hundreds of times on plain and and have had no issues with the law. I have never seen you and the P4-33 Fountain other then on plain whenever you are in the boat and you have had no issues with the law because they couldn't catch up to you.

Hopefully we will meet up some where this summer.

You are responsible for your wake and any damage that you do. I do not belive it has to be marked no wake.
If your wake is preventing costomers from coming in and the bar complains enfough it will be partoled and enforced by the police.

The Wyandotte location will not be named Jacks. The new name will be JB's Warf.

Jacks in St Clair will open this weekend I belive and JB's Warf is set to open May 2nd.

No arguments there... but IF the Sheriff, Coast Guard, etc will be enforcing wake infringements, they should have something to enforce. Chasing after someone because they have caused damaged is too late.

No wake "zones" are published for the entirety of the Detroit River, whether they are marked with buoys or not. The question was whether the red markers directly across from Jacks in Wyandotte are inside or outside of that 500 yards.

...and AB, would you expect anything different? :wink:

Brian

Andy , any dates picked out for the fun run yet ? If I know far enough in advance I can get more of the gang to come down. :drink::drink::drink::drink:

This is why the rule stands, never make eye contact, they cant catch you anyway, lol just kidding. The red markers are safe as far as I know, always run it hard when we go that way and never had problems, but will check my nav charts as well. I believe the official no wake zone in that area is by the marina at the free bridge to grosse ile which is marked, usualy if you stay to the far east side of the channel you are good. JMHO though.

Hi Jim!

We are still not sure but we will try, once again to possible hook up with the "Old School Reunion" and if not I would like to say possible June 19 but not set in stone. As soon as we can confirm we will get back to you. Looking forward to seeing you guys again this year.

AB

Hey Jeff!

I think I am losing it, Hi Jim?

Detroit River No Wake Zone Map
 

There seems to be a lot of confussion about the wake limits in the Wyandotte area and on the river in general. You guys are way off in Wyandotte. No wake limits are only 300 feet in Wyandotte but around Grosse Ile the limit is 1000 feet. That makes the whole Trenton channel a no wake zone. Wyandotte needs to update their wake limits if they want the area in front of JB Warf to be a no wake zone. Here's the link to the map on the Wayne County Web Site.
http://www.waynecounty.com/mygovt/sheriff/wakes.aspx
http://www.waynecounty.com/mygovt/sheriff/wakes.aspx

Good find, never seen this one before but looks like wayne county does not enforce these limits at all in accordance to the map, wonder what there guidelines are for the actual running conditions ?

There is a Wayne County Sherrif Sign posted right on the docks next to the Wyandotte Boat Ramp that states 1000' no wake zone. I was just in front of these docks yesterday.

they need to make a deal with the local marina,s on either side of the resturant,,,both have gates that would lead to jacks in wyandotte,,,,charge what thay can get,,,would be worth it to me:drink:

Thanks for the post... I have to say though... I always blow through the 1000' no wake zones, and I've never had a problem. I knew about the S. shore of Belle Isle (found out the hard way, but only got a warning), and I try to stay out of Canada as much as possible (so the Grass Island no wake didn't apply), but those other two I've always blown right by (more so out of ignorance than anything, I just didn't know that they were there) and never had a problem.

That said, those two seem ridiculous to me. I understand protecting the beach at Belle Isle, I understand protecting the homes on Grosse Isle, but 1000' from shore, what are you really protecting?

In wyandotte, the 1000' no wake zone is to protect the concrete seawalls:confused:

The one that pisses me off is Wayne County will enforce the Ecorse no wake laws on the otherside of mud island (I, am not talking about between the park and the island). I got pulled over and ticketed for violating the no wake zone on the south east corner of Mud Island..........But yet have never been bothered within the 1000' no wake zone by the wyandotte boat launch. Go Figure..

I belong to the Wyandotte Yacht Club (which is actually in Ecorse) right next to the Ecorse public boat ramp. I've known about this map for a couple of seasons now. We always have problens with people kickin it right out of the ramp or in too big of a hurry 'cuz they're late for dinner and even people just cruisin right down the shore line, so last season I printed off a stack and gave them to the ramp to hand out and the mojority of people were happy to get one because like you said a lot of them didn't even know that info even existed much less where to find it. And a lot of the guys that come through there are out of the area walleye fishermen that have no clue what the wake zones are. So I guess I'll keep them supplied again this year.

:)Screw those walleye fisherman! They think they own the river.... :fish: Thank god they are only out there early in the season. Not all of them are that way though. But it seems every time out early in the season I have some guy yelling at me to shut my boat off becasue it's too loud. It's not my fault they are fishish right in the middle of the channel.. You guys know how shallow it is outside of the marked channel right out side of wyandotte & ecorse......

Hey kaama377, I keep my Velocity over at the store & Launch. I have been keeping boats here for quite some time. Had my Baja 250 over there and my Scarab 21 as well. If I am not mistaken you used to have an Orange Kevlar Scarab With Best Shot on the side......

Found another link to the no wake zones as well, interesting reading. http://www.waynecounty.com/mygovt/sh...gulations.aspx

So I wonder if the 1000' no wake sign I saw outside of the Wyandotte boat ramp is an old sign, becasue it completly contradicts the 300' no wake zone that is in that article...

As usual leave it up to the county to confuse the hell out of it !

Hopefully the new owners of Jack's on St Clair , turn it back to what it was a few years ago..., a cool hang out for boaters, I hate how they ruined the bar atmosphere by replacing the bar stools w/low seating, & low quality food I enjoy sitting up & seeing the boat traffic ect.

Ha! 40mph on the Detroit and Rouge Rivers... No problems on that one!

I agree... It is a shame that place got so nasty. Near the end they were ranked one of the dirtiest kitchens in Macomb County. They even made it on TV for being so disgusting. I brought a girl there to eat and she ended up with food poisoning. I hope they get the old atmosphere back and get better food.

Yeah that would be me. Boy do I miss that boat. I regret sellin it. It went to Tulsa Oklahoma. I've been meaning to shoot the guy an e-mail just to see how she's doin. Now I have the Excalibur with the flame paint job. A little slower with a bunch more room to keep my wife happy and me out of a cruiser. But I really miss those twin turbos. I told him if he ever wanted to sell it to call me first. Couple of Tyler Crockett motors now. As you can see I couldn't bring myself to change my user name and the Excalibur is now Best Shot III.

Are you happy with the Excaliber? We had one fully loaded (Gen./Heat/Air, etc) with "Headed South" on the side of the boat. Great boat, beautiful as can be, but slower than hell and a b!tch to get on plane!

Is the restaurant/bar called "BROWNS" still around??? I thought it was kind of a neat place for boaters to dock at, however docking was a little to be desired from what I remember....I think it is up a river a few miles or so not too far from Muskamoot Bay. I was only there once back in 2001 with my boat.