The new project
 

After breaking the bottom twice on our raceboat, we decided to take it to the next level and buy the Goumada 27. Been racing forever and not even a stress crack. Its hull #1. Were going to rerig the entire boat. Will have a mild 650 hp motor(in my avatar) when were all doen too, should be competitive. HEres some starter pics.
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...n2/itshome.jpg

Cool...looking forward to see how you rerig. Take some good before, during and after shots. Keep it green!

Thanks man, the green is staying
www.performancemarineservice.com its sorta our bag :drink:

love the dead beat section...that's great:)

Johnny,
Your dad told me about this find, What class are you going to run that in?

Class 5. We ran it all summer with the old boat, lots of fun...even chased this boat around :drink:

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Nice boat man. :drink:

I saw this boat up close and personal down in Ocean City this past year during the races. There were actually a few Kryptonites out there running around.

One question though, what does Goumada mean?

Hahaha...Phil tell them to take that boat into southern Italy on your way back from drilling. Once your there ask around for a "goumada". Make sure she's not to young though :drink: It's Kryptonite's version of a "mistress".

Thanks :drink: I have no clue lol ittl say Saris Racing Engines on it soon enough tho. Theres some pics of the old boat floating around ittl give you an idea.

Heres one
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o.../AIRRRRRRR.jpg

Getting there..
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...91221-1511.jpg
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http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o...saftervyno.jpg

Looking good.....how much hp you gonna be running? What prop are you thinking about running?

That is a sweet looking engine you got there.

You originally said somewhere around 650hp, so depending on what kind of speed you are shooting for, a 30p Labbed Bravo 1 should put you right at 90mph at 6000rpm, depending on your prop depth of course.

650hp should put him around 95mph with a light load:drink:

I dont know about that.... Don't quote me on this but I am pretty sure that Don's 29' is putting out a bit over 650hp and has run a best of just over 90mph with a very high X at 6000rpm. I would think that a solid 700hp would run mid 90's, maybe high 90's on a perfect day.

But could be possible with a very light load and perfect set up.

This boat is built pretty heavy...but its also a bare bones boat. Were actually going to detune the motor just a bit because of the 75 mph restrictions...were thinking more like 550 hp and 6000 now for a longer living torquey motor...the X is real hihg on this boat.

Phil,
MRD said the motor was 750hp with there race cam, They detuned it for pleasure boating but didn't re dyno it. They guessed 625-650 hp They said it was a 509, well its apart and has a Crower 4.125 crank rods and .Ross pistons in it (no stamp on the pistons I need to measure the bore).... so a little over 509... .
I agree I think mid 90's with the right setup will take 700hp. I have a documented 800+ hp that ran 98 mph and 104 when he put a much needed larger carb on it. But the X is a little deep and the prop is not labbed yet. So in my opinion 650 hp 90, 700 mid 90's 800 hp 105 mph. 1000+ hp we will see

Tell me more about this class... how do they know if you go over the 75mph? A gps on the boat? can you go over it at all or is it a DQ? Is it a straight race or roundy round?

Sh*t, maybe I got lucky then! JCPerformance, around 620hp with wrong prop and a broken trim, two people and almost 3/4 tank of gas pulled out 89mph.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSrixhICY88

www.oparacing.org class 5. They use the same technology used in fleets of trucks...you can go between 75 and 76 3 times ebfore your DQd.....we got DQd twice this year lol 3 Kryps in the class :drink:

They give you a gps to go onboard. If you break 75mph twice, your disqualified. If you break it once, you get a penalty? I beleive. Its a standard race.....I beleive theres three kryptonites in that class actually. Superheat Guomada and Typhoon:coolcowboy:

I dont doubt that you ran 89mph, and as Don said, he doesnt exactly know how much hp his motor is putting out, so it could very well be that a proper set up 650hp will run close to 95mph. I know that with 800hp in my boat, I have run a best of 104mph, and John (lightspeed) ran a best of 106mph when it was new.

WIth that said, I sure hope that 650hp will run 95, because that is what I am planning on detuning my 598ci to so it will live a bit longer.

Guomada is Saris Racing Engines :D now...and its a little different than them just handing out a gps..you have to buy a special trackign one now. You get 3 shots. Superheat is unde rnew ownership too.

Nice Vid. dyno numbers are left to the operator. You can make the adjustment factor anything you want. I could run the same motor and get two totally different numbers. I like the guys who give real numbers and adjustment factors. a JC motor that makes 650hp might make 700+ with some less scrupulous guy at the dyno. Some guys are honest and give 650hp others are selling the 750hp motor that runs slower than the JC or Performance Marine (to name a few) motor that only puts out 650hp HP numbers sell... so it is really hard to compare between two different dyno's and operators. I know my motor Dyno'd by Performance Marine like yours from JC are real numbers.

But really nice vid Did it take you a long time to put together?

the rules section is "being revised" I will check back. so you have to run as close to but not over 75. How many miles do they run? Are the boats generally capable of going over 75? Or do you set them up to run 75 wide open and just try to hold it there with throttle stops. seems like the is a lot of strategy involved.

I Was In Jays Boat When We Ran 89 MPH ,,Theres More In The Boat When We Dial It In Probably 3 Or 4 More ,,,

What do you guys think is the best prop for these hulls?

I tried a lot of props on mine, The like the 4 blade Bravo style. But i tried a Maximus and it performed well also very stable but seemed to hold the bow down a bit, I would have liked to put some time on it to get a true feeling. I will be prop testing with the bravo's and Maximus when I get the motor done.
I hated the Hydromotive it was really loose.

I had a Hyrdomotive P-5 on mine when i fiirst got it and was not a big fan at all. Anything over 85mph turned it into a driver's boat, and not in a good way. the chine walk was almost uncontrollable. Luckily, I threw a blade on it and picked up a used Labbed Bravo 1. The first time I had it out, it felt like an entirely different boat, rock solid all the way into triple digits.

I have not tried a Maximus, but with the way my Bravo 1 performed, I dont think I need to.

Maybe five hours? It was my first movie. Its very easy if you have a Mac. We only had two runs for a total of 30 mins so I didn't have much footage.:angry-smiley-038:

I think everyone ends up trying a few props but EVERYONE comes back to Bravo 1's. My boat handled like sh*t with the hydromotive. When i went back to my mechanic Joey Impressica he laughed at me, threw on 28p Bravo 1 and said "here, you got a whole new boat now! Forget how that thing handled before." . I can tell you he was RIGHT, it handled like a dream every since.

:poopoo: Just the kryptonite or the Mystic too??????

Races are only 20-30 miles usually(at least thats what they were in Key West for class 5).

Some boats are capable of running well over 75. Some probably run right around 75-78. That's all part of the strategy. It's basically a contest to see who can keep it closest to 75 MPH without going over for the longest:drink: IMO tourquey motors with crazy acceleration from 50-70 MPH is what you want.

FF2 - Looking good so far. I'll be up there the whole week between xmas and new years. Will ride locally if we get snow, otherwise Indian Lake and Speculator. Let me know if you guys will be out.

Just the Kryptonite. The big boat is actually a Platinum, not a Mystic.

mastercraft... boats looking good.
just an fyi, its 'cropper' not crooper.

Pete...i doubt Ill be out but my bands playing in town if u wanan stop by or see the boat...or Chirs's lol. Don...our old boat would run a solid 80 and accelorated like a mofo...the only problem was keeping the bottom together and not breaking out.

Day, time, location?

I may stop by one day when I'm not riding.

Saturday Jan 2nd at 9pm..Michael Arthurs restaurant in Bolton. Gimme a shout tomorrow or something i might get the sled ready

I ride tug hill, and seculator area. usually Tuesdays. How is the snow there? We have 2" at beast here, not enough to ride

We got a nice solid base anyway...another 6 inches or so we'll be set

I hear Speculator is doing OK. I will probably trailer there Wednesday. Check out www.ilsnow.com for conditions and reports.

I am leaving on the 2nd. Too bad, I would have liked to see you rock out!