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Uncle Dave 01-01-2010 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3015927)
Would an add on external kit be good that taps into the stock steering?

Only if it loses the cable from the equation, and is oil-oil.

This is also known as "fully hydraulic".

UD

Uncle Dave 01-01-2010 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3015927)
Would an add on external kit be good that taps into the stock steering?

to be honest- no.

because you will still have a cable in between you and the water vs oil.

UD

twistedvelocity 01-01-2010 06:09 PM

I seen imco kits it sounds like they tap into the stock powersteering and keep the cables.
Here is a link to a add on kit

http://www.cpperformance.com/detail.aspx?ID=2664

Uncle Dave 01-01-2010 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3015952)
I seen imco kits it sounds like they tap into the stock powersteering and keep the cables.
Here is a link to a add on kit

http://www.cpperformance.com/detail.aspx?ID=2664

The - Imco stuff is great, but does this kit include a juice helm, or is this just the stuff for the rear....



UD

twistedvelocity 01-01-2010 07:19 PM

I think its just the rear stuff i thought it tapped into the stock stuff.
What do you think about this kit

http://www.cpperformance.com/detail.aspx?ID=9115

Uncle Dave 01-01-2010 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3015984)
I think its just the rear stuff i thought it tapped into the stock stuff.
What do you think about this kit

http://www.cpperformance.com/detail.aspx?ID=9115

Looks more complete. Mayfairs pretty good stuff.

If it were me Id go with the whole Imco setup only because Im partial to them.

Who is doing the work?

UD

twistedvelocity 01-01-2010 07:30 PM

I will be doing everything myself

Uncle Dave 01-01-2010 08:09 PM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3015991)
I will be doing everything myself

I hope you got some skills my friend.

UD

twistedvelocity 01-01-2010 09:10 PM

Definitely. This all seems like pretty basic stuff
I just can't let anyone else work on my stuff it makes me feel uncomfortable.

Uncle Dave 01-02-2010 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3016024)
Definitely. This all seems like pretty basic stuff
I just can't let anyone else work on my stuff it makes me feel uncomfortable.

I get it. Most of it is very basic, but it can be tricky. A lot of these parts are heavy and require 2 people to install. Plus you need to seal the transom effectively everytime you drill a hole in it otherwise water intrusion will rot out your boat.

ID get on the horn with the velocity guys and get some tips, Ill bet theyd appreciate being in the loop and may offer some install pointers.

UD

twistedvelocity 01-02-2010 11:39 AM

Would they be best to talk to or would regal?

Uncle Dave 01-02-2010 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3016220)
Would they be best to talk to or would regal?

Sorry- Regal, I keep thinking you have a velocity. (your name)


UD

twistedvelocity 01-02-2010 02:53 PM

I dont know what to call it really its designed by velocity. but from 87-89 regal owned the velocity name and made them

twistedvelocity 01-03-2010 10:26 PM

What do you think about hitting the 100mph mark?

Uncle Dave 01-03-2010 10:37 PM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3016977)
What do you think about hitting the 100mph mark?

thats a nice place to be -I got there before on nitrous.
100hp plate on the 406.

Ive only got 6% slip. Pretty efficient hull.


UD

twistedvelocity 01-04-2010 01:09 AM

Was it scary in that small boat going that fast.
I don't 100% understand the prop slip thing.
Basically like a 6% traction loss yes?
can you get props with no slip?
What prop were you running on that boat?

twistedvelocity 01-04-2010 01:12 AM

Also where do you find is the best place to buy boat parts from?

Uncle Dave 01-04-2010 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3017012)
Was it scary in that small boat going that fast.
I don't 100% understand the prop slip thing.
Basically like a 6% traction loss yes?
can you get props with no slip?
What prop were you running on that boat?

The Sebring was not scary, its a solid handler at all speeds and feels planted. It is lite in the front but not like an STV or small outboard tunnell hull/cat I could have kited it by overtrimming.

Your propellers thrust isnt 100% 1-1 the hull and the prop and many factors contribute to "slippage" a transaction loss is a good way to describe it.

You will always have some slip- more blades and bigger diameters help this, but some slip is beneficial to acceleration and drive lifespan.

I was running a hydromotive 4 blade 27 6300RPM.

http://www.go-fast.com/Prop_Slip_Calculator.htm

UD

Uncle Dave 01-04-2010 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3017014)
Also where do you find is the best place to buy boat parts from?

Depends on the parts. If Im having them put in for me I always get a square deal from Lavey.

On my own I use CP, Teague, Rex, and Imco, Dana- depends on the part.

Dave

twistedvelocity 01-04-2010 01:37 PM

I gunna open up the bottom end on my stock 350 mag just to check the bearings out and everything. I got a set of roller tipped rockers around here somewhere I was thinking of throwing on for the hell of it. I was also thinking maybe take the heads apart and do alittle porting mainly just remove casting defects. What do you think?

Uncle Dave 01-04-2010 02:14 PM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3017251)
I gunna open up the bottom end on my stock 350 mag just to check the bearings out and everything. I got a set of roller tipped rockers around here somewhere I was thinking of throwing on for the hell of it. I was also thinking maybe take the heads apart and do alittle porting mainly just remove casting defects. What do you think?


Without an aftermarket exhaust- any "porting" you do wont do a thing.

Exhaust is the foundation upon which all other engine work stands on.

If you are going to bother at all then I would put it back together w a new set of aluminum heads. Dont even bother with the junk heads that came with your stocker.

Leave the bottom end alone for now, unless you are blowing oil past the rings- have you done a leakdown test?

Heads, intake and exhaust can get you another 100HP or 5 MPH.


UD

twistedvelocity 01-04-2010 02:48 PM

I was just thinking remove teh flashing in the casting. I read before that it alone can be worth up to 30hp on a stock engine.
I'm not gunn put no real money into the stock engine. No leakdown test yet. For the bottom end I was just going to check out the condition of the bearings mainly

Uncle Dave 01-04-2010 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3017287)
I was just thinking remove teh flashing in the casting. I read before that it alone can be worth up to 30hp on a stock engine.
I'm not gunn put no real money into the stock engine. No leakdown test yet. For the bottom end I was just going to check out the condition of the bearings mainly

IN an auto app, probably in a marine app with no other changes, I really doubt it.

Your mercury exhaust is so restrictive I dont think you will get anywhere.

Look at it this way.

At about 1MPH per 20HP lets say you could get 30HP is 1.5 MPH worth all that work?

At this stage ID just leave it in until you are ready to replace it.



UD

twistedvelocity 01-04-2010 09:00 PM

I think my boat would get alittle more then 1mph per 20hp maybe once you get to teh 80mph mark it might be more.
with teh stock 350 mag your about 270hp and that will do 60mph with teh 330hp 454 your around 65mph and the 365hp 454 mag you around 70mph. To me those aren't that big of jumps compared to mph gained

Uncle Dave 01-04-2010 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3017565)
I think my boat would get alittle more then 1mph per 20hp maybe once you get to teh 80mph mark it might be more.
with teh stock 350 mag your about 270hp and that will do 60mph with teh 330hp 454 your around 65mph and the 365hp 454 mag you around 70mph. To me those aren't that big of jumps compared to mph gained



Maybe, as you said past 80 you get into diminishing returns very quickly.

With an alpha you can get a bit better - until it shreds.

The larger bravo drive is less hydrodynamically efficient and "costs" MPH.

UD

twistedvelocity 01-04-2010 09:52 PM

The alpha will never be going back on the boat.
Today I was taking some of the accessories off the engine basicallly every but teh long block and it use to be a salt water boat and there is a decent amount of corrosion in the intake water passage so i think im going to get alittle more into it

twistedvelocity 01-04-2010 10:45 PM

Do you know if the seapump brackets off a 454 will work on a 350

Uncle Dave 01-04-2010 11:27 PM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3017626)
Do you know if the seapump brackets off a 454 will work on a 350

I dont think so but I never tried to line them up.

UD

twistedvelocity 01-04-2010 11:54 PM

Do you know when switching to the bravo from an alpha if I need to switch the shift linkage also?

twistedvelocity 01-05-2010 02:18 AM

Man picking a colour to go with for this thing is driving me crazy. I originally wanted orange then I could't find the right colour. Then it was blue but I read about the dark colours so that was a no no. Now im leaning back towards orange and I want to paint on blue and silver graphics. I was thinkng silver for a main colour but I dont; think its for me. Also the idea of a real light teal maybe

Uncle Dave 01-05-2010 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3017652)
Do you know when switching to the bravo from an alpha if I need to switch the shift linkage also?

I couldnt say, Ive never done that swap.

Ive changed Bravo to bravoXR and didnt need to but thats straightforward comparitively.

UD

Uncle Dave 01-05-2010 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3017669)
Man picking a colour to go with for this thing is driving me crazy. I originally wanted orange then I could't find the right colour. Then it was blue but I read about the dark colours so that was a no no. Now im leaning back towards orange and I want to paint on blue and silver graphics. I was thinkng silver for a main colour but I dont; think its for me. Also the idea of a real light teal maybe

I know your suffering. Ive felt it myself.


UD

twistedvelocity 01-05-2010 11:31 AM

The thing that sucks for me is I do autobody and paint so I can do anything I want which makes it even harder to figure out. Do you think with a lighter teal or an orange teh boat would get to hot to go on the deckor anything.

twistedvelocity 01-06-2010 12:32 AM

i think I am going to do a mild upgrade to my engine now. I got a bunch of parts to start with. Really I need to find decent heads cheap. Just try for a good solid engine 350-400hp

Uncle Dave 01-06-2010 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3017853)
The thing that sucks for me is I do autobody and paint so I can do anything I want which makes it even harder to figure out. Do you think with a lighter teal or an orange teh boat would get to hot to go on the deckor anything.

This didnt post yesterday-

Teal will date the look of your boat. I have it on my rig and like it, but certain colors scream 60's 70's 80's and 90's.....

UD

Uncle Dave 01-06-2010 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by twistedvelocity (Post 3018316)
i think I am going to do a mild upgrade to my engine now. I got a bunch of parts to start with. Really I need to find decent heads cheap. Just try for a good solid engine 350-400hp

Id go with an exhaust first .

(if you dont do this it will hold back everything you do do)

Heads/ intake/carb/cams next.

Bottom end then.

This will get you a nice bump.

Be on the lookout for a good used exhaust system.


UD

twistedvelocity 01-06-2010 11:30 AM

The engine is coming apart no matter what now. I got the bottom end already just no top. I'm gunna see if I can source up some of the gm vortec heads cheap. One of my exhaust manifolds is cracked so an exhaust is needed too. I will definitely do an exhaust.

Uncle Dave 01-06-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Uncle Dave (Post 3018441)
This didnt post yesterday-

Teal will date the look of your boat. I have it on my rig and like it, but certain colors scream 60's 70's 80's and 90's.....

UD

My teal and exhaust.

If you are lucky maybe you can find a good set of aftermarket exhaust right now.

There are a few great choices right now. Everyone has their pet brand,

Most are pretty good now.
some are great
Only a few are garbage.
even the worst way outperform the stock stuff.

Dave

twistedvelocity 01-06-2010 09:12 PM

What do you think would be best a dual or single plane intake?

twistedvelocity 01-06-2010 09:22 PM

I really like the colours on this boat. specially the second pic down on the left.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o28907-en.html


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