Somebody in Germany is about to be really happy.
 

There is an awesome 28 Evo finishing up at Laveycraft. It seems nearly every one has ended up in Germany......

White Ilmor 710, SCX drive, long K planes, big Garmin map Dual helm........ very cool setup.

Custom dash, lots of custom pieces - heated seats.... (follow on with details)

Great gel work - Dave?

This should give the Ol29 with the 725 and Indy a run for its money. Last I looked that guy claimed 97.

We know this boat breaks 100 with a 710 and a B1...

Uncle Dave

http://i.imgur.com/ZEuSyQi.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Py6pG69.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YPk7BHW.jpg

Just wondering. Why the SCX over the INDY drive?

Good question.

After significant testing of the NSX their raceboat (same bottom design) with it was determined that the the boat handled better with a "regular drive" than surface piercing drives running cleavers

If you look around you will see very few 28 ft stepped V's running surface piercing drives and cleaver props.

If the boat were longer and running duals, the Indy would be a natural choice.

UD

Never thought of that. Surface piercing is probably pretty bad on a single.

Lots of controversy on it. The Arneson guys are pretty confident but thats a different deal.
The guy that bough the OL had quite a time getting it to handle the way he thought it should handle (thats all on here to go look at)

Rather than chance something not working correctly, the Lavey guys went with a package and dimensions they were familiar with.

The SCX cuts a few off the top of everyone whos run it but its stout. Id like to see someone do a before and after with a Rem polish on those gears.

This boat should hit the century mark.

what is the difference between the 28 EVO and the 29Nuera other then the EVO look's like a straight poker run race boat ?

Thak's
mike

Beside the canopy lots- 28 Evo is a super light layup with foam vs balsa. (both vac bagged) You sit much lower in the boat with the EVO.
29 is whats called a shoebox fit and the 28 basically pops out of the molds ready to rig..
Bucket rear sets vs bench There is typically nothing in the front of the 28 evo but a pad whereas 29's are usually plush up front.

28 Evo and the 2750 share the same bottom. Jr could add more detail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apWZkv_f4bc

UD

Heres a poker run clip of one running with a 35 hustler.

(not my music or editing)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7Ii2k93xKs

UD

even thow I like the EVO I think the 29 newera would fit the family better :) " wife and 5 year old girl "
how do you think the 29 would run in ocean 4 footers compared to my old 28 pantra, of course not with the kid in the boat :)
Thank's
mike

nice and level no tab's from what i can see

My 2750 ended up there...
UD.....Did the 28 Evo that was for sale about 6 months/1 year ago end of there? I think it is the Evo in your first youtube link.

on a side note.... WAY glad to see Lavey building!!!!!!

I made the same family choice and went with the 2750.
29 has a lot friendlier design than a 28 evo - 29 has a more length and lot more room up front and a lot friendlier with a bench seat in back.

2750 is lighter than pantera 28, and the 28EVO is lighter yet.

Laveys racing record with this bottom was outstanding winning every single APBA race in its class in 06 and walking away from everyone in 8 footers in Puerto Rico.
I believe only the joker 28 has a better racing record than the 2750/ 28 evo.

So net net- Ill put a Lavey 2750 or 28 up against a Pantera 28. I respect Pantera boats and think there is a neat legacy in them.
Lavey has been around since 52 and has a neat history as well.

UD

Schweeg,

They've punched out an awesome party prowler with a 600 and a custom interior. The German 28 Evo is a 2 boat deal there wll be another coming right after it!

Pretty sure all the evos are now in germany - including that one with a ridiculous 1100 ponies.

Dave

THank you , Wife talked me into a new 2014 diesel pusher RV That we got 6 month's ago , Im going to list it soon I miss boating already :)

Rv? Yeah totally get that as well.

The guys at Lavey helped me with a bit of paint on mine...

UD

Interior shot of EVO


http://i.imgur.com/ciJeKZ6.jpg

I have an older Rv - all done up nice though.

UD

http://i.imgur.com/yJiwydp.jpg

I had the pleasure of meeting Jeff a month ago as a new-comer to Lavey. Stopped into the factory and saw this one (and its twin) under construction just ahead of the engine/outdrive installation. Interesting that there seems to be a following over seas for Laveys. Either way, I can understand why with the build qualityand performance. That particular boat was absolutely stunning! Also a bonus because they had another 2750 in the mold so I was able to see up close and personal how they are built. Jeff was unbelievably accomodating and spent no less than a couple hours providing me a wealth of information on my 'new to me' 2750. Got to see all the other stuff going on in the shop which is great to see too. Now if the ice would start to melt out here in the Notheast. I'm dieing to go boating!
-Paul

nice , The RV is great but have no time to take it anywhere for a week + at a time , where as the boat you take it out for a day at a time and your good :)
let me no if any of your friends need a new diesel rv loaded up :) about 5000 miles on the cummins motor and allision trans,
this is what I have " http://palazzorv.com/ " 2014 33.3 model
with in motion direct tv , tow dolly, bluox trucenter steering stabilizer, max air vent's ect

mike

The blue 2750 in the showroom is mine.

UD

..aaand thats the PIA thing about them.

Makes no sense for even a 3 day weekend by the time you pack and unpack the thing.

I share my rig with a couple other trustworthy guys, (if you can image who they may be) who help maintain it and shelter it for me.

Between the three of us it still only has 23K on and its a 98. It's just real hard to get a week off.

UD

I didn't realize it when we bought it , Guess I will taking a big hit once I list it :(

so back to boats :) have you been in a 29 ? if so how does she ride compared to the 27 ? I no it will be a bit slower with same power. I'm just not sure if they just stretched the 27 a few feet and maybe it doesn't handle as good or maybe it handles better ? . most of my cruising will be in the ocean 2 to 4 footers and depending on how much flight it has I may just be able to take wife and kid out in 2 foot or less . I am thinking between 700 to 800 HP in a single engine application

Thank's
mike

Yes I have been in many 29's and they are very fast for their size (Only velocity rates faster per given HP than the Laveys ) just a bit under the 2750 per HP but not much.

I had to run flat out to beat a merc "600" powered 29 with my smaller boat and theoretically more powerful 710- we were both pushing high 80's.

It's a few feet longer and you can feel it help in the rough and of course you can feel that length hurt in a turn.

Boat wont feel 2 feet - you can operate in that with complete impunity. I would have a 29 if it fit in my driveway.

I run catalina with 3-4's all the time with no drama.

Make sure if you are getting 7-800 Ponies you are getting a later hull.

The early bottom design was built to work well with 500HP and are set up for that HP- the later ones with what lavey calls the "full bottom its very easy to drive and very stable at speed where the earlier bottom was a bit skittish (easily fixed however if you get an early one)

The only caveat here is that being a "big 29" actually over 30ft. you are pressing a single XR really hard.

Ive ground up a couple of drives with my Ilmor 710- something like a Teague 800 will grind one down in a hurry in the ocean.
an SCX is ideal here if you can swing the bread.

UD

Uncle Dave,
I did see your boat but it wasn't in the showroom at the time I was there. It was out back near the blue 39 Evo. Recognized the radar tower right away though! I've read everything to be seen here and otherwise easily found on your boat. Vey nice piece and i really enjoyed reading what I could about the build and how you set her up. Many great choices from my view and from what your boating preferences are for this one.

I'm new to LaveyCraft but have done my fair share of studying all I could on Lavey and especially the 2750. I have been in the market for a performance oriented MCOB in that size range for a few years and it came down to 3 manufacturers which all happen to be out in Southern California! I'm in New England and am not sure I've ever even seen a Lavey up here. That doesn't bother me in the least and I'm really anxious to get out in it. After crawling through it and then visiting the factory, I'm convinced I bought the best one for my preferences. Btw, you probably know the boat as it came out of Tennessee. Brought it home in November and all I've been able to do since putting it away for the winter is stare at pictures!

I came out of a 30' twin big block offshore boat and em really looking forward to something a little more economical and family friendly.

Great to see some chatter here on the forum. Been quiet all winter so hopefully sign of Spring!

Cheers,
Paul

Thank you for all in great info , I would have a brand new 29 built with the SCX drive when I unload the RV .
speed wise what do you think with the 700 to 800 hp range ?

Thank's again
mike

Dave are selling your 2750 at Lavey ?

I have been in a few of the Lavey's. 2750 and the 29 model years 2001 thru 2005. The 2750 is more nimble and somewhat a feeling of lighter than the 29. For me the 2750 cabin would not work being 6'3 - 230 - the 29 is a lot better but still not perfect for taller people. The 29 feels a lot taller and really seems a lot taller driving in the water. The 29 seems to handle rougher water better plus the higher freeboard helps feeling more secure. I would buy the right 29 if I could find one. Corning the 2750 seems to corner better. Neither the 2750 nor the 29 do not corner like a Velocity 280. I know because I have the 280.

The Velocity can not handle the rough like a Laveycraft. The Velocity 280 is a drivers boat and is fun to drive because it needs input. Velocity quality is below a Lavey more than a couple of notches. Three boats IMO that corner like on rails is that Joker 26 and the Velocity 260 & 280. I was very shocked how well the Velocity 280 corners.

Somethings I do not like about the Lavey's and I promise I am knocking the brand because I really like the boat and really want a 29 - these are from what I saw in person from year models 2001 thru 2005. Cheap quality rub rail installed and so does Pantera. Could not believe what I saw for steering Rotary cable steering matched up with a single external hydraulic ram steering. Yes rotary cable steering on HP 500 efi & HP525 engine installed on boats 70 MPH and above. Especially for the price of this brand not have full 100% hydraulic steering thru out..

Also the wiring behind the dash is very average. Hustler Powerboats has it down on its wiring anywhere on it boats compared to many boats. Again I am comparing 2001 thru 2005 about 4 or 5 Lavey's that I saw in person and drove.

Tricky to say because the SCX has habit of pulling a few MPH off the top compared to a bravo (and its worth it for the longevity).

Give me some more info - When you say 7-800 is that NA ponies or blown ponies? At what altitude and heat do you boat and do you plan on carrying full people and fuel?

UD

No Bup, my rig is not for sale.

Yeah a guy your size isn't going to camp well in a 2750.
Actually Lavey went with the smaller boat to race with as the speed vs water handling worked out in favor of the smaller boat.

No problem! You have only seen the Laveys you have seen and Ive seen hundreds..

I think the things you mention have 3 sides to their stories. Yours and my expectations and the original buyers wallet.

Lavey gives you a choice of rubber, steel insert, or they will do a hull fully capped when you buy the boat- if the owner chooses the stock rail- its his deal but the rail you are mentioning is the "stock" rail.

The rail on my 20.8 is a PIA one you describe, but the one on my 2750 is pretty slick. Lavey will paint the rub rail in the boat scheme if you want- (I don't recommend this)

As for the steering - its a completely custom boat, you can get whatever the Merc package is - or whatever you decide to buy.

Lots of guys cheap out on steering on their boats.

Haven't seen may hustler dash looms to compare, could very well, be. Ive never been impressed with the plumbing and wiring in the bilge shots I see here,of them though so whatever magic their dash guy has the bilge guy seems to give it up.

My 91 dash is till holding up pretty well but It not super pretty, but compared to my advantage jet boat that fell apart it seems deluxe.

I know Quents 2750 used a whole new setup that looked clinically clean and was totally different tech than my boat used.

UD

600 ci 700 to 800 hp NA , I boat in south east Florida so we are at sea level and summer time is hot mostly in the 90's with high humidity . I'm looking for a guesstimated speed I no there are a lot of factors that play into it ,.
example : so let say 700 hp would be a 80 mph every day boat 800 hp would be an 85 mph boat .
I say everyday boat as full of fuel 2 or 3 people in it a nice big cooler :) ect,
also depending on price maybe a merc 700 or ilmor 725 could be in the cards

Thank's
mike

I hear you Dave loud and clear and your boat has a lot quality built in no doubt. I understand about the rub rails but it detracts from the rest of the great quality put forth by Lavey. IMO it shouldn't even be offered as many cheaply built production boats install a better rub rail set up.

We are talking about an extra 2.5 k for the builder to buy this anyways quality is quality just all up to the end user. Got to ask is your boat in for service or just show casing ? Remember I crawled all thru boat and yes it is very very nice 100%. Do not take it that I am knocking Lavey because I am not at all. They drive very nice and handle the rough very well. Again I would buy a 29 if I could find one. See you sometime down the road and I want a ride.

Also that why I posted the model years 2001 - 2005 what I saw in person as I know things and set up have changed from earlier to later Lavey models.

Stock components are always a game manufacturers play - - which gauges, what interior, what throttle, what rub rail,which stereo, how many speakers etc... all that stuff is always up in flux, where one guys spends a little more on a "stock boat" one guys spends a little less, and it changes from year to year....I see stuff like non split combined throttle shift controls on "offshore" boats all the time.

Ive seen what I would consider some astonishingly bad calls from end users, and Ive seen Lavey do stuff I don't understand as well- not often but it happens.

Im pizzed of I can't get the old Lavey side emblem on my new boat.

Boat was in for winter storage and Ill do a sea pump changeout and we were looking at the dash as I may be customizing the nav system again with a nav net3- 4 upgrade so my co pilot can get the nav/radar data to an ipad

I don't take anything you are saying negatively and appreciate someone who looks at hundreds of other boats usually has great insight.

As for the ride- anytime Bup.

UD

The Naturally aspirated motors take a beating in the heat and altitude.. 710725 suffers in 110 degree weather.

Sea level low 80's with a 700 and high 80's with an 800 about right on.

Uncle Dave

I was actually going to call you the other day. Are you going to the LHC boatshow or if not is your boat ? I was also going to ask if you ran across any 29's for sale. I don't care even if it is just a hull and trailer but has to be realistic on the price. We head out to Long beach once in a while to get out on the water with few boaters and couple of builders. Take care John

Also did that 32 sell - you know which I'm talking about. I have thought about it but do not want another twin motor app.

You can call me anytime. Im trying to figure out my April schedule now I have to be in Vegas the whole week of the 7nth and was going to head down to the lake with both rigs and do some boating. Thats just 2 weeks before the storm.
I may make one or both weekends- or none. Damm work.!

If you want to see the 28 evo it will be picked up at the show during desert storm.

Ill keep an eye out for a 29. I know a guy that may be ready to get off his. They have become like hens teeth.

32 did sell and its sitting ready to be re powered not sure the power.
Couldn't get a price out of Jeff, and he grumbled when I asked.....

UD

I heard the 32 sold I guess the guy sold his 2750 to move up to the yellow 32. I'm sure the grumbling was because of the price they (Lavey) sold it for. It was time to move it anyways. They would never make me a killer deal on it and I really did not want a another twin app.

oh... I don't want to hear about the 280 turning- I want a ride in it. It will be interesting to compare - curious what steering you have on it?

I noticed different turning on my 2750 with the speed master lower and the imco lower.

Same thing that makes the imco so fast (short skeg) makes the speedmaster the better handling but slower lower unit.

I couldn't get a killer deal on the 32 either. I may go for a deck boat next.

UD

Heres what I mean by getting used to ultra high quality- The logo also doubled as the vent.
Going back to a mere sticker was annoying. ( I had to at least do some custom paint.)

Notice annoying rail.

http://i.imgur.com/SGKBV6p.jpg

The Velocity has a Bravo I performance drive. Its a 2000 year model. I bought it from one of my customers. I was going to sell it but it is fun to drive - like I said its a drivers boat. It does not handle the rough that well compared to Lavey nor I also have 28 DDC - Challenger. In which is sleeper in the rough just very slow boat and built like a tank very solid. 5800 lbs dry single 496 - only 375 hp at 60 mph no matter how its loaded even full with passengers. The DDC Challenger will slide in a very very hard corner but will not come around but of course it will only do 60 mph. Stock boat.

The Velocity - 385 hp is fast I can get 70 mph once and while with everything being right and light load.. It turns on a dime and stays planted. The Laveys are fun to drive but do not need the input like the Velocity. Also the cabin is way too small for me on the Velocity. No head room up front. Their wiring is sub pair for that year 2000.

I seen pics of your older Lavey. The engine compartment is nice as well thow up some pics of that.

I think you are being a bit to kind- although I have good parts its not real tidy back there- and thats because Ive had (conservatively) 4-5 mills in that boat since 93 before I settled on this combo. I need to really go through it and makes things pretty.

UD

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