CT B.S. Thread
 

here you go, talk about whatever you want............what do you guys for fun now that boating season is over?????? I go to florida a lot over the winter, and in the fall try to hit up all the uconn football games. Anybody going Friday night against west virginia???

the only activity i enjoy during the winter is snowboarding...i like to get up to vermont whenever possible (stratton, mt snow, okemo, etc)

i try to avoid bars and drinking...i get enough of that during the summer.

other than that...i lay low, save cash for boating, and enjoy watching all the winter sports from the comfort of my couch.

yeah i go to killington, but just end up doing a lot of drinking haha.

All right I see a CPBA killington trip in our future!

I snow board and Ski but havent done any skiing in about 15 years. Used to ski freestyle many ,many years AGO.

sure I could still pull off regular skiing if needed.

I kinda lay low in the winter too need to recharge the batteries. No sleds or anything like that. I tow all summer bewteen drag racing and boating. Dont even wanna see a trailer in the winter.LOL

heres a video of my turbo car on the street

878 HP 9.70 at 145

now fuel injected once I get the tune set better should run low 9's easy

http://www.youtube.com/user/turbo69b.../1/DT8-vwcn7z4


This was just some playing on the street on the way back from my daughters dance class in simsbury.LOL

The wife is video taping and you can hear my boy say DADA when he sees my car. Hes 1 year old.LOL

There some other cool videos on ther check them out.

jeff whats going on over at white oak???????? drove by sat and they were painting the building. also, how about a turbo set-up on my 540's??????????? :coolcowboy:

Turbos kick azz! It's only a matter of time before they really take off in the marine high perf world. Go for it Adam!!! :cool:


BTW, you forgot to post the video Jeff.

I can help with that. I sell turbos wastegates blow off valves etc.

Turbos ARE the future weather its boating or cars !

Nothing really compares although S/C's are getting better everyday too.

I have no Idea about white oak I'll have to call and find out whats up.

The lawsuits may have settled one way or the other. Been a long time.

i say turbos with water/meth injection, now your making some power........but seriously how much would it be to turbo a BBC??

totally depends on how you set it up.

Id figure $750 each for twins, starting price, $375 each for wastegates, $250 for a blow off valve
$1200 for a brent carb or a CSU.
Misc tubing (inlet) $200.00
Silcone connectors $200.00 water meth $250

If you go EFI Gen 7 or fast, figure a $3000 used with injectors and then $800+ for a good tune.

fuel system will most likely need to be upgraded to at least an aeromotive A1000 or better for carb and definately go weldon with fuel injection. also gonna need a boost referenced regulator.


Theres no power like turbo power though.

im at like 8.75/1 comp right now with iron heads, would i have to change comp??? also how are the turbos cooled???? dont want any fires in the bilge

What year are the heads? are they fast burn?

I run 8.25 in my pontiac with Iron heads on 93 octane fuel, have Put 20PSI to it and it lives just fine.

I wouldnt hesitate to put 15 PSi to a 8.75 motor if it was tuned properly. The tune is the KEY

If you detonate the thing your gonna eat ring lands and head gaskets, If you can keep it tuned properly and run it a little on the fat side you'll have anice safe tune with big power thats reliable. I run Gen 7 DFI on my car with 160# injectors.

It could suuport almost 2000 HP. I havent pushed it very much yet.


You can easily make 1000 Hp each with turbos and just be scrtching the surface of its availble HP.

There are a few ways to cool the turbos.. first is to runa wet exhaustb and use a block off plate at the riser, Divert the water around the turbo and back into the back of the piping. This coupled with a coated exhaust housing will kill off allot of heat.

You can also make a stainless surround for around the turbine housing that is plumbed woth water to absorb and remove the heat. A guy i knew in mass did this and it worked really well.

Your always going to get some heat in the bilge though with turbos so I would vent it very well.

come on up and go for a ride in my turbo car. You'll be hooked instantly. I am only in simsbury so not very far away. In fact I was at outback in southington with the car last week,

Here thought you might like this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK5XygHcsvk

heres another turbo power video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwF-k...eature=related

and a boat video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U9nYk3kcdg

Adam,

I'm surprised your compression is that low for a NA engine. 8.75:1 is excellent for FI, assuming you have forged pistons, you should be all set. I doubt you have blower pistons, so the ring lands probably aren't all that thick. I dont think I'd run it at 15 psi for sake of longevity, but I even at half that amount you'd be making some serious power... and on 93 octane to boot! I'd also add intercooling to Jeff's parts list. I run meth on my turbo cars. Great stuff, but I dont think I'd want to rely on it in a boat where the engines will stay on boost for extended periods of time.

While switching to fuel injection is the way to go, it will dramatically add to the cost. If you keep the boost down to reasonable levels, I'd say stay with carbs and see what you think before blowing a lot of time and money converting over to EFI.

Jeff and I have been talking about taking the cars and getting together some evening at the Pike. If you have a real interest in what turbos can do with big cubes, you should meet up with us... Jeff's car has a large single and mine has fairly large twins. I can pretty much guarantee you'll be hooked! :D

yeah when they built the motors the owner wanted superchargers but then changed his mind. thats why as is theyre only making a little over 500hp as 540 strokers. i think if i did something though it would be blowers. my buddy had a turbo RX7 all done up. that wankel was a little monster.

how bout some pics of girls we bring on the boat to get this thread goin......

Well the good news then is it likely has blower pistons in it already, so you dont need to worry about the ring lands and ring gaps as much.

Pound for pound, turbos will make more power than a blower will... but I understand that blowers can be cheaper and easier, not to mention proven. Still if I were starting with a clean sheet of paper, I'd go turbos.

I dont waste my time with Blower pistons if your tune is right the thickness of the ring land doesnt make much difference really.

If your tune is off your piston could be 3 inches thick and you'll kill the lands.

I have been building turbo engines for a long time now and In my own engines I dont waste my money.

15 PSi would be safe, with the proper tune I have run it at 9.2 in a Iron headed pontiac for 2 seasons but you will give up some timing to do it. You probably dont need 15 PSi anyway but it CAN be done.

DFI is great but you will loose some intercooling effect from the latent cooling effect of the fuel in the intake tract, that you would achieve with a carb.

You will however benefit from an almost infinately adjustable timing curve with DFi.

I have taught allot of people how to turbocharge there cars and make them live as well as built quite a few from the ground up.

Not subconrtacting peices to anyone else, but entirely building the system.

I started the forced induction forums at Pontiaczone.com in 2005 and have moderated it ever since.

Almost every car on that site runs my turbos, wastegates and Bovs and several run my custom stainless headers.

2MM thick, 3/8 flanges, gas purged and tig welded with V band and T6 flanges.

I dont turbocharge cars for the money I do it because I love it!

ok i pay for parts and jeff installs and sets it up.......then frank, kevin, and all the kronies want turbos cause ill be kicking their azz. so we both make out. :lolhit:

Great thread guy's but not to change the subject, Does anyone have a 2009-2010- Dodge Challenger R/T ? I'm thinking about getting one and want some first hand knowledge first. Thanks. Tom

who cares about topic, thats why its the BS thread..............

Oct 15-Dec 27th is boring for me. The boat is away and there is no snow on the ground. Plus, I sold my quad a few weeks ago. After Xmas I try to ride as much as possible. We have a fleet of sleds up at our Lake George house.

I like the "girls on the boat pics" subject better ! :evilb::evilb:

No idea who these girls are...they just came over and parked themselves on my sunpad. I had no problems with it!

Ive got a CR 500 to cure those blues. The thing is mint $1350.00

I dont really ride it anymore. Between the boat and drag racing I dont have tme for bikes, Sold my 250r quad last year too.

This thing will rip your arms out!

is it me or does it seem like CT owns the northeast section...hahaha

just sayin and bs'ing LOL

The only problem I have iwth boats is from the crank back.

I am not knowledgeable on drives and props that will handle that kind of HP. from what I have read not too many people are.LOL

Guys are shredding props at about 1000 HP and god only knows what would hold up drive wise maybe a #6 or a konrad?

being an OB guy I really dont know drives very well.
I can certainly spec you the turbos, wastegates and BOv's and also help you with set up thats no issue at all. You may need to have some pieces fabricated but I think your in the right business for that.

Id also suggest running a vaccum pump on the engines as boost pressures will like to kreep into the bottom end and tend to push out gaskets if theres not negative pressure in the bottom end. I do that on my race car Just make things last longer.

Hers some theory for you.
An engine is a big air pump, It runs at atmospheric pressure, so theoretically if you add 1 bar (15PSI) you are doubling the amount of air ingested, Now 15 psi will be different on all engines because boost is a measure of restriction, not a measure of air flow. So a better flowing engine at 15 PSI is moving more air.

SO lets take a 300 HP engine N/A put 15 PSi to it and it should theorectically make 600HP .

Take a 600 HP naturally aspirated engine and it will make 1200 HP at 15 PSI. This is all assuming the engine can flow that amount of air without finding new restrictions exhaust intake etc.


I can predict that your boat with twin BBC's and turbos set up properly will make more pwoer than you will EVER have the sack to USE.LOL:eek:

Id be real interested in helping you out with this project. I have been wanting to this for along time Now all you need to do is buy richies new sutphen hull thats in the shop and were on our way.


Just Kidding.:drink:

Now were gettin somewhere!....The Sutphen run a few weeks ago.......Mines the hottie on the bottom RIGHT !!!:eek:

Just to add to that a 300 CID engine THINKS its 600CID at 15 psi and a 454 thinks its 908 CID at 15 PSi

Sometimes that puts it in better perspective for epole than HP. Because HP is torque x rpm

Pontiacs will make much less HP than thier SBC counterparts but will also usually make allot more torque. most times it evens out and they run similarly. Its all based on gearing at that point. You want to build for the charicteristics of your particular engine.

BTW whats in those engines for connecting rods?

Wow, that's a heat getter! :eek:

Ahh when I looked at that post the first time the pic hadnt come up yet.LOL


Ill have to forward that response to the misses.

Only after Scots post did I see it. You weret supposed to mention the CT swapping rituals on the RIVER.LOL:eek:

not worried about the bottom end. its the heads and valvetrain that make me nervous........

I would not be all that concerned as long as you have the heads sealed well with Cometic or MLS head gaskets and good head studs (APR), I wouldn't worry about the heads themselves. If the valve train was fine NA, it should hold up fine with FI. If you were seeing valve float, then I would address the valve springs. It's cheap and easy to swap valve springs for insurance... I know I would. High RPM's are typically harder on the bottom end and valve train than boost ussually is. As Jeff said though, your tune is VERY important with FI applications...

ill go with the girls onboard theme...some...ill add more later

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/...lsonboard4.jpg

http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/...lsonboard3.jpg

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heads and valve train wont be an issue, Scots right about valve springs though Turbo valve springs tend to see allot more abuse than N/A I usually change them every other season on a drag car so Id change them every season on a boat I think( depening on usage).
Cheap insurance

cant wait to take you for a ride in the turbo bird!

I always changed them every other season on N/A engines too though cause Its cheaper to change valve springs than eat a valve and pay for a complete engine with pistons rods etc.

I have to agree that we (the CT folks) tend to be the most active in the northeast section... I also think we have the best boating in the NE as well. We have the semi protected waters of LI Sound and all the neat things inside it (like the Thimble Islands), the CT River, a short trip over to LI, Fisher's Island, Block Island, Martha's Vineyard, Nantucket, Newport, etc all within a reasonable distance. A lot of diversity and attractions so there's something for everyone and plenty to do while still keeping things from getting boring. Honestly I think we have some of the best boating in New England, if not most of the US. I just wish the water was a little warmer and clearer at times! :drink:

Who wants my Motion!! Just lowered the price to 80K!! Need to sell so we can buy the new ride!!

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o36325-en.html

yeah baby I see a BIG UN in your future!

ITs a really clean ride if its what I think it is???