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Old 01-28-2011 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by kreed
Your welcome Scot................

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Maybe pick this up for 30K??
What would it cost to rig that cat? 40K?
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Old 01-28-2011 | 09:23 AM
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Easy to say but that will limit some to what they can get. For me it is the smart money buy. I write my boat off though my business( I do take clients out often). So I need to take the interest minus my deductions and beat that number with my investments. In the end I can buy more boat then I would if I paid cash, because like Scot is seeing I would never take $120k from my future and plunk it down on a depricating asset. My Cafe was paid off but I owed $9k on my home equity. So when it sold I paid that off. My guess is many have credit card debt that is staggering. Most CC debt is between 13-20% and no write offs. I have not had any credit card debt in 15 years. I pay that thing off every month. But like I said the boat I will not own for 20 years and won't pay this off, so for me and my situation this makes the most dollars and sense. At least I can point to the boat and say that is what I owe the money on and it still has a value. From what I see at work there are many with credit card bills that equal the price of a car and they can not tell me what it was all spent on. If boat loans where in the 9' this would never work for me nor would own the boat I do now, I would have gladly kept the Cafe. And for the record the only reason I bought the Tiger was because Scot told me too . Scot I know you can find something nice and cool for $50-$70K, but it will most likely be a bravo boat, but then again I don't see that as a bad thing.
You take the whole boat as a business expense Frank? My accountant literally laughed at me when I asked him if we could do this. He said we can take the "interest" (second home) but not the whole boat. He said that would be a MAJOR red flag for the IRS. I told him about taking "clients" out etc etc etc.... but he again laughed.
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Old 01-28-2011 | 09:58 AM
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You take the whole boat as a business expense Frank? My accountant literally laughed at me when I asked him if we could do this. He said we can take the "interest" (second home) but not the whole boat. He said that would be a MAJOR red flag for the IRS. I told him about taking "clients" out etc etc etc.... but he again laughed.
I take the boat as a whole with all the expenses and write a portion through the business. So we are talking gas, rack, insurance and then my accountant includes it as a business expense. I also take clients out every week to so drinks meals etc. This is the only time being self emplyoeed works in favor by the way. I do not have the luxury of a cash business like some people. Kreed that cat is kick A$$ nice find it needs steering drives exhaust and some ponies. Some one could be it that boat boat for $80k with mild power.
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Old 01-28-2011 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 4195
I take the boat as a whole with all the expenses and write a portion through the business. So we are talking gas, rack, insurance and then my accountant includes it as a business expense. I also take clients out every week to so drinks meals etc. This is the only time being self emplyoeed works in favor by the way. I do not have the luxury of a cash business like some people. Kreed that cat is kick A$$ nice find it needs steering drives exhaust and some ponies. Some one could be it that boat boat for $80k with mild power.
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Old 01-28-2011 | 10:55 AM
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This WAS such a good thread Justin!!!!
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Old 01-28-2011 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by moses0324
definately doesnt sound legal...i know many company owners whom have a hard enough time writing off company delivery vehicles as a business expense let alone a go-fast boat...sounds sketchy to me.

legally in writing...it doesnt sound as though the boat has anything to do with your business. taking clients out in it simply wouldnt suffice in my opinion. Sounds like you have a crooked accountant.

i.e. a law has just been passed that no longer allows pharm reps to wine and dine docs as a business expense...sounds like a similar case...
Listen up jr. I would greatly warn you against questioning my integrity on any public forum. You and I will have big problem, I hope that is crystal clear! Second what do you know about my business and my taxes other then the little I have shared here. Are you a CPA at a major accounting firm in CT? Because very knowledgable. And reputatable accountant is. I love how you think you are authority on everything, you gotta growing up to do. I am more then happy to meet up with you if you would like to discuss this further
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Old 01-28-2011 | 11:33 AM
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Uh oh...... I didn't mean to start anything between you guys!

Justin.... I wasn't saying that Frank was doing ANYTHING wrong.... as I've heard many people on OSO, who are also self-employed, take some or all of the boat as a deduction. I just wish I could talk my accountant into it.....being self-employed like Frank/Kevin. We have to take all the deductions we can...... as we get bent over ENOUGH.
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Old 01-28-2011 | 12:12 PM
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I saw this coming..... all our good threads get f'd up.... Justin, Im not so sure you meant to be as blunt as you were in your post, or maybe Im wrong and you really do have strong feelings about Franks business practices. But IMO, you crossed the line here. Ive known Frank since middle school, so I know him pretty well. He has become very sucessful in the last 12 years because of his hard work and dedication. His business has made it through ALOT of economical short comings in the last 5 years with this economy and you dont get to that point by illegal practices..... and still stay afloat. Hes got hundreds of clients, some of which may be on this board. So, to call him and his business practices out in a public forum is definately not cool.

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Old 01-28-2011 | 12:26 PM
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Some accountants might be more creative then others....but crooked? I would say that most accountants wouldn't risk their reputation and license to save someone else a couple of $'s.... just food for thought.

So what kind of boat is Scot buying.....?
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Old 01-28-2011 | 12:27 PM
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Maybe Justin shouldn't have called him out like that but if he didn't want to be critiqued maybe it shouldn't be public knowledge. Do you put on a public forum that you cheat on your wife and then get mad when people tell you your wrong? Some things are better just being kept to yourself. IMO if you dont want to be questioned don't even put it out there. Not saying Frank's wrong cause I'm not an accountant but my gf is....

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