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08-20-2013, 06:15 AM
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08-20-2013, 06:28 AM
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I think a lot of the speed this boat has is in the layup, it seems to be pretty light for an early TG. I realize it's kevlar, but I've now seen this boat parked next to a couple of other similar glass TG's and it sits noticably higher in the water. With 1200's I can see the (lowered) drives possible keeping it well planted as this power would no doubt carry the boat further out of the water, but I suspect there would still be more speed in her with them raised a little... how much height and speed, I don't know.
The boat hops so bad due to all the weight in the back, it will always likely need some tab to control it unless a decent amount of weight was added to the front (which nobody wants to do). Going up 2" will certainly gain some speed, but it will also come out of the water a lot easier when running offshore... The drives on my OL are pretty high and even with 17.5" props, it doesn't take much for the props to come out of the water. So while the rasied drives might be faster in claim water (going up a couple of inches should gain several MPH), the down side is it might be slower in rougher conditions as the props will spend less time in the water, it will likely be less settled, and it might porpoise even worse. I think Frank has seen this to be true in his Tiger since he lowered his drives. Like everything, there's a trade-off. But if Kevin is just looking for more speed and a better roostertail, I agree raising the drive a couple of inches and going with larger diameter props will make a big difference.
The boat hops so bad due to all the weight in the back, it will always likely need some tab to control it unless a decent amount of weight was added to the front (which nobody wants to do). Going up 2" will certainly gain some speed, but it will also come out of the water a lot easier when running offshore... The drives on my OL are pretty high and even with 17.5" props, it doesn't take much for the props to come out of the water. So while the rasied drives might be faster in claim water (going up a couple of inches should gain several MPH), the down side is it might be slower in rougher conditions as the props will spend less time in the water, it will likely be less settled, and it might porpoise even worse. I think Frank has seen this to be true in his Tiger since he lowered his drives. Like everything, there's a trade-off. But if Kevin is just looking for more speed and a better roostertail, I agree raising the drive a couple of inches and going with larger diameter props will make a big difference.
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08-20-2013, 08:09 AM
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Typically straight bottom cigs love trim because the factory drive height is buried in the water, higher the drive the less trim it will require. I'd imagine a stepped boat needs the props a little deeper to get out of the aerated water.
I think also a set of 17-17.5" props on Kevin's boat labbed to help carry the bow may help reduce the porpoise a little bit.
I think also a set of 17-17.5" props on Kevin's boat labbed to help carry the bow may help reduce the porpoise a little bit.
08-20-2013, 08:59 AM
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Typically straight bottom cigs love trim because the factory drive height is buried in the water, higher the drive the less trim it will require. I'd imagine a stepped boat needs the props a little deeper to get out of the aerated water.
I think also a set of 17-17.5" props on Kevin's boat labbed to help carry the bow may help reduce the porpoise a little bit.
I think also a set of 17-17.5" props on Kevin's boat labbed to help carry the bow may help reduce the porpoise a little bit.
08-20-2013, 10:35 AM
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I'm thinking so, depends what week in Sept it is. I'm not sure what the dates are, I will be heading down to FL with the boat soon.
Scott: most OLs have high X dim's. I'm just being fun, my comments weren't directed as a negative, just friendly banter
I like my oscar mayer floating weenie wagon lol
Kevin: Tabs are always needed to keep the boat down, the weight in the rear makes her want to fly. 42 Tiger did it pretty bad, you scrub allot of speed when you tab it but if you can hold on in a 2ft sea, it'll fly right over them, problem is mainly in calm water. Just my .02 cents.
Jamie is right on what he said, you need big rake on those props, 18-21*.
Scott: most OLs have high X dim's. I'm just being fun, my comments weren't directed as a negative, just friendly banter
I like my oscar mayer floating weenie wagon lolKevin: Tabs are always needed to keep the boat down, the weight in the rear makes her want to fly. 42 Tiger did it pretty bad, you scrub allot of speed when you tab it but if you can hold on in a 2ft sea, it'll fly right over them, problem is mainly in calm water. Just my .02 cents.
Jamie is right on what he said, you need big rake on those props, 18-21*.
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08-20-2013, 12:17 PM
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I'm thinking so, depends what week in Sept it is. I'm not sure what the dates are, I will be heading down to FL with the boat soon.
Scott: most OLs have high X dim's. I'm just being fun, my comments weren't directed as a negative, just friendly banter I like my oscar mayer floating weenie wagon lol
Kevin: Tabs are always needed to keep the boat down, the weight in the rear makes her want to fly. 42 Tiger did it pretty bad, you scrub allot of speed when you tab it but if you can hold on in a 2ft sea, it'll fly right over them, problem is mainly in calm water. Just my .02 cents.
Jamie is right on what he said, you need big rake on those props, 18-21*.
Scott: most OLs have high X dim's. I'm just being fun, my comments weren't directed as a negative, just friendly banter
I like my oscar mayer floating weenie wagon lolKevin: Tabs are always needed to keep the boat down, the weight in the rear makes her want to fly. 42 Tiger did it pretty bad, you scrub allot of speed when you tab it but if you can hold on in a 2ft sea, it'll fly right over them, problem is mainly in calm water. Just my .02 cents.
Jamie is right on what he said, you need big rake on those props, 18-21*.
08-20-2013, 12:32 PM
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Kevin: Tabs are always needed to keep the boat down, the weight in the rear makes her want to fly. 42 Tiger did it pretty bad, you scrub allot of speed when you tab it but if you can hold on in a 2ft sea, it'll fly right over them, problem is mainly in calm water. Just my .02 cents.
Jamie is right on what he said, you need big rake on those props, 18-21*.
Jamie is right on what he said, you need big rake on those props, 18-21*.
08-20-2013, 01:10 PM
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Pat, finally upgraded to a boat with 6's, so it is heavier back there. I can make it ride straight and flat no problem, just gotta either keep drives tucked in or trim a bit and use tabs. Once boat hits 60, I can trim up slowly and use no tabs....Just takes alittle getting used to. We all gotta do a tie off day before fall so I can climb on that OL...Havent seen it in person yet.
That's excellent Kev, and yea, so I heard. You'll get used to it...big difference from Bravo's eh?
