Offshoreonly.com - P5 rules

Offshoreonly.com (https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/)

- OPA/The Jersey Boyz (https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/opa-jersey-boyz-193/)

- - P5 rules (https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/opa-jersey-boyz/173455-p5-rules.html)

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcsmith (Post 2341569)

Tyler,
Now you are contradicting yourself. You first say that we need
big power to get the acceleration to win. Then you say if we
limit power to 500, you will build a 500 that will out accelerate
everyone else. Why not then limit the power to around 500HP
and the guys that can do their homework will still have an
advantage, but not as big a one?

By the way, this is in no way a attack on you and your
championship. You have done your homework and followed
the rules. I just see this thing escalating. No one wants to
repower their boat everytime someone shows up with a bigger
bullet.

Rich
Undertow 611

I am not contradicting myself it is easier to build acceration with a bigger motor it will just cost more to do it in a 500 HP. I am just saying someone will allways find a advantage and when that someone does everyone else will complain. I am not worried about an attack or anybody hurting my feelings I am just stating what I think and I am not trying to impossable or hurt anybodys feelings either I have just been around for a long time and seen alot of classes come and go and I think the way OPA is right now you can not beat it. You could take your stock 420 HP 496 and I could take the same 496 Put a crankshaft in there that is 30#s lighter and a set of titainum connecting rods and a 8 # flywheel and the motor will make the same 420 HP but I will beat you everytime. Now that's why SBI has Innovation and myself build and check all the engines in the F1 class. If you let all those guy's build their own motors and even if we dynoed them and they made the right HP how would you control the guy's putting the light weight parts in ???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flashwave (Post 2341458)

Rick,
I suggest you get on the phone and hammer all this out before the first race. Aren't you the Northern Rep for POPRA?

I am the Nothern Rep, long story for another day. I did not get invited to one meeting all year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flashwave (Post 2341458)

If you can't sell it, race it.

Jim

You know it. Actually I was looking to sell as I had an offer for a full time ride with the BCRA racing a midget. Couple that with my road racing schedule and there would be no time left. Ended up walking away from the full time midget ride, we will do some select races during 08 though and thought it might be nice to get the boat running and do some more racing.

Good luck with the F1 deal, I would still like to put together an SVL team. Just won't happen this year.

Rick

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerCrockett (Post 2341550)

Brian Hollis offered all you guy's with the stock power a class last year with a 10000.00 prize purse and nobody stepped up. Everybody complains about the big power in the smaller classes that's what it takes for acceration to win. OK limit the power to 500 HP and I will build a motor that out accerates your 500 HP and that will be the next complaint. If you want all the boats to run the same everybody will win nobody will lose.

No if everyone is close with equiptment then the race is any given day! If everybody will win is impossible. Maybe you should try the 496 and run the smiths if you are seriously trying to use your knowledge move way up in class! Compete with JC.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donzilla (Post 2341657)

I already ran P3 and won a World Championship with my old boat Fortress a 30' Phantom if you sponsor me I will go after Smitty in Class 2 then move on to Haggin.:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryoung99 (Post 2341606)

my road racing schedule
Rick

What do you road race? I run SCCA and do some crewing in Grand Am Rolex

Rich
Undertow 611

Quote:

Originally Posted by TylerCrockett (Post 2341597)

I think the way OPA is right now you can not beat it. You could take your stock 420 HP 496 and I could take the same 496 Put a crankshaft in there that is 30#s lighter and a set of titainum connecting rods and a 8 # flywheel and the motor will make the same 420 HP but I will beat you everytime. Now that's why SBI has Innovation and myself build and check all the engines in the F1 class. If you let all those guy's build their own motors and even if we dynoed them and they made the right HP how would you control the guy's putting the light weight parts in ???

I agree OPA has a great thing going. As far as controlling
what lite parts are in there, You can't without the tech BS.

So your opinion is that engine rules should be wide open in
class 6?

You certainly have more motor knowledge than I
do, but I do not see harm in putting a reasonable limit on
the HP... like you said, you still will build a better engine and beat us, but the rest of us "closer to stock" guys will
run together behind you and hope your lite crank breaks.

Rich

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcsmith (Post 2341710)

The motor I ran in Cambridge was 625 HP that's not to unresonable. When we built our A and B class engines they were 800 HP and 35-40000.00 each.

Rich that knowledge needs to step way up and that is a compliment!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donzilla (Post 2341743)

Rich that knowledge needs to step way up and that is a compliment!

I will make you a deal buy my boat and I will build a new boat and engine and run you in Class 5. :D