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Old 11-28-2008 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 Trick Rick
The way Michigan's going that 900 Bucks is a big deal to more teams than you may realize, so Thanks Smitty!

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I agree with keeping speeds the same as now. If anything lower them a couple mph so they are in line with the other race org's to try and start building a little unity and conformity, The fans watching won't notice a couple mph.
I agree keep the old GPS's to keep cost down.... $900 is a lot for us peps in Kansas to!!

I agree align the classes, its too hard to explain to people the different class speeds in all of organizations. We have talked of this before and with the 3 years being up, now is the chance.
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Old 11-28-2008 | 03:34 PM
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After getting Dq,d in key west I got to wondering if it isn't possible to control our speed as well as our r.p.m.Im' a low tech. guy in a high tech world but it seems to me we should be able to link the g.p.s. to our allowable class speed. most of us have felt the pain a breakout. any one have some knowledge of the possibility of such equpt.at a price we could handle.GrumpyG
i'm not trying to point the finger but if you break it your own fault. we all know the top speed allowed and you just need to work on your setup to that speed. i know some guys that have to look at the speedo and pull back and thats their way of setting the boat up. its probably not the the best way but they are risking breaking out.

i cant see why you cant just figure out prop and rev limiter to get as close to top speed with out going over??

to the prez of OPA and other in class 100 -

as for my class (100) what about changing the top speed to 117 mph. this would be the same as sbi and i could run the same setup ??
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Old 11-28-2008 | 04:25 PM
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These are the SBI Speeds..

• Class #6 70 MPH (Class #6 N/A in SBI racing)
• Class #5 72 MPH
• Class #4 82 MPH
• Class #3 92 MPH
• Class #2 102 MPH
• Class #1 117 MPH
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Old 11-28-2008 | 04:47 PM
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These are the SBI Speeds..

• Class #6 70 MPH (Class #6 N/A in SBI racing)
• Class #5 72 MPH
• Class #4 82 MPH
• Class #3 92 MPH
• Class #2 102 MPH
• Class #1 117 MPH
rick i was not asking or talking about any other class other than class 100.
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Old 11-28-2008 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by skaterdave
rick i was not asking or talking about any other class other than class 100.
Oh... I was asking if all the class would be willing to align there speeds with SBI.

I'm cool either way

Pros: Class unity that may encourage some SBI teams to come up north and race.

Cons: I just bought new props..
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Old 11-28-2008 | 04:58 PM
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Im my opinion only. The reason its so hard to set up a boat to a class is the water conditions we race in. Your perfect set up prop in the bay on a calm day with no chop will put you over if you leave the dock and find yourself in a 2 foot chop on race day. The same set up will produce aprox. a 2-3 MPH greater speed. So to think its as easy as picking a prop on your rev limiter and you wont break out forget it. Class 5 boats are all capable of 80MPH or darn close. It would make it a lot closer to wide open throttle racing for this class. It would really make the teams run at WOT in the ocean. With a max of 30 feet it would be hard to get much more than 80 MPH out of that size boat and have reliable power to finish. Many teams already have in excess of 600hp.
Why would a canopy boat in class 5 have more of an advantage? In my opinion, its a disadvantage as long as top speed would still be at 80 mph. It takes at least double the team work and trust factor to get that puppy around the course." YOU CANT SEE" and there is that split second lost here and there communicating in the turns. Yes it is safer but definitly not faster! Most run a higher X dimension to achieve the speeds they get in spec racing but it comes at a high cost of control. A open cockpit Extreme has the same speed as a canopy Extreme with the same power so whats the difference.
Im all about growing the class and having it as fair as passable with good competition for all in the class. Things are going to be tight next year and getting a full class of boats 10-15 will be hard. Does class 5 want more competition?
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Old 11-28-2008 | 05:36 PM
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Randy, the only reason I feel that canopy boat should not be allowed to run with open boat in class 5 is the well know fact that the canopy boats are much safer, and in big water there would be a huge advantage over a open boat less than 30' in length. Ok i will spell it out (your ba//s get much bigger in a canopy) In the upper classes this is not as much of a advantage because they are running against boats a lot larger than 30'.

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Old 11-28-2008 | 06:19 PM
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Randy, the only reason I feel that canopy boat should not be allowed to run with open boat in class 5 is the well know fact that the canopy boats are much safer, and in big water there would be a huge advantage over a open boat less than 30' in length. Ok i will spell it out (your ba//s get much bigger in a canopy) In the upper classes this is not as much of a advantage because they are running against boats a lot larger than 30'.

In my opinion only.
the canopy boats would be definately safer and would let those in the canopy boats possible run over their heads since they would feel safer

yes i understand that with a tail wind or some chop the boat will run faster. hence this is why you would test more than one time on the "perfect" day and have a few setups for different kinda of water.

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Old 11-28-2008 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by HighPriority
Randy, the only reason I feel that canopy boat should not be allowed to run with open boat in class 5 is the well know fact that the canopy boats are much safer, and in big water there would be a huge advantage over a open boat less than 30' in length. Ok i will spell it out (your ba//s get much bigger in a canopy) In the upper classes this is not as much of a advantage because they are running against boats a lot larger than 30'.

In my opinion only.
That is easy to think, but having been around various forms of racing since I was about 4 years old, once you are off the forum, on the course and the adrenalin starts pumping, their are only 2 things that dictate how fast you are really going to go...

1. is how fast you need to go to keep the guy behind you, behind you

and/or

2. how fast you have to go to get in front of the guy infront of you
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Old 11-28-2008 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 Trick Rick
Oh... I was asking if all the class would be willing to align there speeds with SBI.

I'm cool either way

Pros: Class unity that may encourage some SBI teams to come up north and race.

Cons: I just bought new props..
Class 1 is 112 MPH,,,and your new props will not help you when i come up .LOL
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