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wot 12-03-2010 09:44 PM

You're all full of sh!t!

TYPHOON 12-03-2010 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by wot (Post 3266534)
You're all full of sh!t!

Please explain

purnell 12-04-2010 07:10 AM

for the record my boat has 500efi's with bravos, turnin 4 blade herings, was built as a SBI factory 2 boat

wot 12-04-2010 08:53 AM

Focus on getting new teams involved, support services, etc verse ridicule and divide the mass. ...

Wazzup Racing 12-04-2010 09:04 AM

New teams are coming, and reading. Play nice.
Just spoke to Niel Wobie yesterday. Looks like the new owners of ZIP EXPRESS are looking at OPA. Welcome aboard guys, don't be shy. Smitty

2 Trick Rick 12-04-2010 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by purnell (Post 3266653)
for the record my boat has 500efi's with bravos, turnin 4 blade herings, was built as a SBI factory 2 boat

F-2 Boats = Class 4

BRUCE SEROFF 12-04-2010 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by 2 Trick Rick (Post 3266773)
F-2 Boats = Class 4

there was a time when F2 boats were class 3 and F1 was class 4. That was also when max speeds were 90 and 80 respectively. However, if anyone recalls, Canopied F-2 boats killed F-2 in SBI. They were not allowed in APBA. If Bill's boat was an open cockpit, we would not be having this discussion.

Excerpts from another thread similar subject.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...-key-west.html


Originally Posted by Wazzup Racing (Post 3249122)
Just my 2 cents. a 35 Fountain non stagger with 500's 90 mph boat. But, Canopy vrs open boat, no contest. The lid changes everything.
Smitty


Originally Posted by BRUCE SEROFF (Post 3249276)
So hypothetically speaking. If that boat runs OPA, what class would you think it should run?


Originally Posted by Wazzup Racing (Post 3249637)
Class 3 all day. Like I said the roof changes everything.


extras 12-04-2010 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by F1-00 Racing (Post 3264699)
Rick, Class5, a little self serving huh?:drink:

Speaking for our class(twins)that is proposed, Simmons is talking retirement(also says boat is not capable of 90), Dont really know what the status of Chiro is so lets say they are coming back(also says boat is not capable of 90), Jersey Outlaw will do a race here and there, ok Formula is in as well. So now you go from 3-8 boats in every race down to 1-2(on a good day 3) in a "new class". yawn, been there done that, over it....

My thoughts are to bring back class 2 and leave the rest alone, then have class meetings in St Clair about possible changes for 2012 which then each class rep can bring them to Smitty and he and the board can go from there. Not have ongoing discussions on any offshore forum.

As far as the twin vs. single battle, I have been on both sides and knock on wood was able to to "build a boat for the class" and now everyone wants to cry about it. It always goes back to us as racers are our own worst enemy.

Safety is my only concern about moving up to 90. I mean hell Dev and i proved that if you get cut off, she'll buck ya in a heartbeat attempting to make an evasive move @ 81.4 mph.

Johnny, I respect what you are saying and you have some very valid points, however, you have to remember that when your boat had a 500EFI it ran 80-82 mph all day long and back in the day competed against "The Flying Condo" and sometimes even beat him. I dont know the exact specs on your current motor, but it certainly looks like it has a lot more ponies than 520-525HP. So in theory, it should easily be capable of mid to high 80's. I also realize that back in the day I was getting gas for .77 a gallon so obviously 2011 is a lot different than 2001-4.

Smitty my thoughts are above, I do request that if changes are to be made they be made yesterday so us florida guys can get out and test test test all winter and be prepared for next season.

you said you built a boat for a class

F1-00 Racing 12-04-2010 12:54 PM

Mark,

Please call Smitty or Bob Owens if you have any concerns about the boat(s) I race in and we can leave it at that. I really dont have time for your childishness

Trent

berns29scarab 12-04-2010 01:01 PM

why cant we all just get along


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