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Old 12-16-2010 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Fast Shafts
If you look at other forms of racing-breakout =disqualification!! In my opinion-leave it the way it is...
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First off it is to remain the way it is I like your "disqualification" terminology. Spells it out more clearly than how it is now.

Curious, what other forms use brackets? only thing I can think of is drag racing. Been a few year since I was with a Pro Comp team but I have to guess that someone broke-out still would win the race over someone who broke and could not make the finishline. maybe I'm wrong?


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If it is changed, you could win even if you breakout. May be in the rule you have to say in order to "win" you must finish and not break out.
Guess we have to ask ourselves what's worse - winning and not finishing or winning and breaking out? To me it seems going the distance is requirement #1 for others its not breaking out, even if you break in the first 10feet.

Keep in mind this comes from someone who broke on lap one, turn one, day one at Worlds - no way would I expect to finish ahead of someone who broke out. But I did.
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Old 12-16-2010 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by gary cook
This might start a fire storm but here we go. I think the rule that if you break down you still will place ahead of the boats that break out needs to be changed. first of all you need to finish to place the way the rule is now if you do 1 lap pull off and i break out you will place ahead of me we are here to race not play the breakout odds. Smitty and i have talked about it what do you guys think lets here what you think.
I understand your point, but I disagree. Essentially, breaking out is cheating. You should be disqualified. Therefore, anyone else that is not disqualified, no matter how many laps they ran, should be ahead of a break out boat.

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Old 12-16-2010 | 01:11 PM
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To place you must finish.. simple enough.

If you finish 2nd out of 5 and only 3 boats were running at the end than your found to have broken out your disqualified and sent to last of THE FINISHING BOATS. so 3rd.

If you finish 1st out of 6 and 5 boats finish and break out, your 5th..

Break-Out and your sent to last of the boats that finished.

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Old 12-16-2010 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Wahoo ATV
If it is changed, you could win even if you breakout. May be in the rule you have to say in order to "win" you must finish and not break out.
This was already the case in Harrison for Class 5. Specialized broke, the rest of the class broke-out, Specialized took 1st.

And happened in Solomons for Class 4, Chiro One broke, Formula & Time Bandit broke-out, Chiro took 1st place

Being that this has already occurred more than once this past season, I do agree that is should be addressed in some sort of manner.

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Old 12-16-2010 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by sbracing
I understand your point, but I disagree. Essentially, breaking out is cheating. You should be disqualified. Therefore, anyone else that is not disqualified, no matter how many laps they ran, should be ahead of a break out boat.

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Originally Posted by Fast Shafts
The "Break Out" is the ultimate penalty-last place points for showing up, racing, but NOT staying within the brackett.
In Gary's scenerio, a boat may have done one lap without breaking out, and than breaks down-but places ahead of a boat that goes the distance-but breaks out. How would you score someone who didn't breakout, but broke 100 yards before the finishline? If you look at other forms of racing-breakout =disqualification!! In my opinion-leave it the way it is...

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Old 12-16-2010 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucididee
Being that this has already occurred more than once this past season, I do agree that is should be addressed in some sort of manner.
Yeah, don't break out.

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Old 12-16-2010 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 Trick Rick
To place you must finish.. simple enough.
no . . . to race you must first follow the rules . . . . superseding the above comment.





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Old 12-16-2010 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by glassdave
no . . . to race you must first follow the rules . . . . superseding the above comment.
Change the Rule..
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Old 12-16-2010 | 03:30 PM
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We have had this happen to us both ways. We didnt finish last year in St Clair heck we really didnt even start and took a 3rd place. This year we broke out in Harrison and Specialized took the win? SO i guess whats good for the goose? Seems like its fair if it happens to you in both casses?

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Old 12-16-2010 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucididee
This was already the case in Harrison for Class 5. Specialized broke, the rest of the class broke-out, Specialized took 1st.

And happened in Solomons for Class 4, Chiro One broke, Formula & Time Bandit broke-out, Chiro took 1st place

Being that this has already occurred more than once this past season, I do agree that is should be addressed in some sort of manner.
Dee, I think you read my post wrong. Currently you are last no matter what else happens. Perhaps it should be in order to get either 1st, 2nd, or 3rd points, you must finish all the laps and not breakout. If they change it, you could win even if you broke out.

I have to agree with the current rule. If you breakout you are cheating in a sense since you should be in the faster class to start.

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