Rule change?
12-16-2010 | 08:29 PM
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[QUOTE=gary cook;3276478]Lets look at this another way car bracket racing my super gas car that will run 8.90 but on throttle stop i run 9.90 if i red light lm done if i brake on the line im done if i run 9.89 but the other car runs 9.85 he broke out more than me i win these simple rules will keep everything fair QUOTE]
What is NHRA rule on following senario:
I make it to the 60 foot and blow-up, never reaching finish line. You red light. Who is winner? Just curious.
Rich
What is NHRA rule on following senario:
I make it to the 60 foot and blow-up, never reaching finish line. You red light. Who is winner? Just curious.
Rich
12-16-2010 | 08:39 PM
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If you break out, you have exceeded the maximum speed stated in the rulebook, therefore, you are cheating. Not in the sense of an intentional rule infraction, but nevertheless cheating. If a team can't keep their boat in the speed bracket they registered in, then they should move up or build a boat that fits the spirit of the class.
It is unfair for the teams that follow the letter of the rules and have a breakdown to finish behind a team that breaks the rules by exceeding the maximum speed of the class.
The simple solution is not to break out.
Rich
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It is unfair for the teams that follow the letter of the rules and have a breakdown to finish behind a team that breaks the rules by exceeding the maximum speed of the class.
The simple solution is not to break out.
Rich
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12-16-2010 | 09:38 PM
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Is there a SINGLE boat out there not capable of running past their class speed?!
Class 6 fine you guys are what I would rule a "semi" spec class. Noone is suppose to have over 500hp. Fine. But 500hp in a 24'-26' boat in race trim should be able to run over 70 all day long. P-class is all about acceleration. To do that and do that well that means power.
350hp would probably push a 24' to 70 but how boring would that be.
Cheating is a horrible term for breaking out. Wrong setup for that day could easily result in that. Not like running an aluminum flywheel in a spec class
Think about it this way - who is more deserving of points the guy who broke 10ft into the race or the guy who runs all the laps???
As for who should win in certain scenerios I think the guys who break are out first (placed in the order they break), the guys who run all the laps (putting on a great show in the process) but break out finish ahead of those that broke and those that run a clean race the win.
Breakouts are place in relation to who ran a cleaner race, which will have to be somewhat defined - number of breakouts, closest to the bracket speed, etc.
Just my .02 but I like that this topic came up. OPA has a great system in place and like everything else a little tweaking once in awhile can be a good thing.
Class 6 fine you guys are what I would rule a "semi" spec class. Noone is suppose to have over 500hp. Fine. But 500hp in a 24'-26' boat in race trim should be able to run over 70 all day long. P-class is all about acceleration. To do that and do that well that means power.
350hp would probably push a 24' to 70 but how boring would that be.
Cheating is a horrible term for breaking out. Wrong setup for that day could easily result in that. Not like running an aluminum flywheel in a spec class
Think about it this way - who is more deserving of points the guy who broke 10ft into the race or the guy who runs all the laps???
As for who should win in certain scenerios I think the guys who break are out first (placed in the order they break), the guys who run all the laps (putting on a great show in the process) but break out finish ahead of those that broke and those that run a clean race the win.
Breakouts are place in relation to who ran a cleaner race, which will have to be somewhat defined - number of breakouts, closest to the bracket speed, etc.
Just my .02 but I like that this topic came up. OPA has a great system in place and like everything else a little tweaking once in awhile can be a good thing.
12-16-2010 | 10:38 PM
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From: utica,n.y.
Everybody keeps stating the rules about breaking out but nobody mentions that if you break out by more than a mile an hour you must move up to the next class.Did ya'll forget to read that part? Since I have been racing I have not seen anyone forced up to the next class. If ya break out your disqualified.Simple as that! Dont like it,dont break out. Or just move up like the rules state.
12-16-2010 | 10:40 PM
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Agreed.The way it is scored now is fair in my opinion;all boats that break out are scored behind boats than run legally even if they did not finish the race.The boat that broke out by the least is scored behind all the boats that ran legally...the more mph you break out by..the lower your finish.There is really no other way to do it.
