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#31
agreed don't want to chase anyone away, but make it more attractive for more to come in. I think one or both of your ideas are good Smitty, a pump fuel rule -no? I don't know if that is easily policed, or would make a distinct difference?
#32
Crockett with 700hp win the worlds
Akula with 500hp win the worlds last year
Joker with 500hp win races
It's not all about the Horsepower
#34
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I agree...look at the teams that won in Class 5 this year....MIGHTY MACS 600hp...OPTIMA 700hp...SPECIALIZED twin outboards about 550hp...WHO YOUR DADDY..twin small blocks with about 850hp...TYPHOON 525hp
#35
It is about Horsepower, to a degree.
There will always be different winners in each class as there should be, but My questions are not about the fact that in the past different boats with different horsepowers have scored victories. Throw in breakouts and breakdowns there will always be different winners. The point is keeping the competition close during the race.
There will always be different winners in each class as there should be, but My questions are not about the fact that in the past different boats with different horsepowers have scored victories. Throw in breakouts and breakdowns there will always be different winners. The point is keeping the competition close during the race.
#36
Well all this talk about who has more horsepower is ok but where do we end? Do we then say any boat with an extension box is out? Any boat with other than a Bravo XR is out? Any boat with a ballast tank is out? Any boat with a Dominator carb out?
I agree with some kind of policy but I just dont know what it is. I dont mind a cubic inch and carb size rule if I had to pick one.
Now run with this.
I agree with some kind of policy but I just dont know what it is. I dont mind a cubic inch and carb size rule if I had to pick one.

Now run with this.
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Heres something out of the blue and please I beg treat me like a kindergarten student.... Engine restrictions are great, are the resources in place that can "police" whatever restriction(s) is instituted?
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#38
Trent, speak english to this polish guy would ya? Are you asking how that would be instituted?
I think from what it sounds like we need to focus on maybe three things ? What do you think?
Cubic Inch Limit
Carburetion limit ? Are we going to gauge cfm capabilities on efi engines?
RPM limits.
Hopefully everyone in the class would abide by an RPM limit showing the tech staff what it is, and not having a switched system for a different limit when they walk away.
Everything else should be open .....I think. Drives, Steps, Gear Ratios, Propellers, as long as the speed is kept consistent to the classes intentions.
Please suggest Opinions and Scenarios that would effect the class using any or all of these Guidelines.
I think from what it sounds like we need to focus on maybe three things ? What do you think?
Cubic Inch Limit
Carburetion limit ? Are we going to gauge cfm capabilities on efi engines?
RPM limits.
Hopefully everyone in the class would abide by an RPM limit showing the tech staff what it is, and not having a switched system for a different limit when they walk away.
Everything else should be open .....I think. Drives, Steps, Gear Ratios, Propellers, as long as the speed is kept consistent to the classes intentions.
Please suggest Opinions and Scenarios that would effect the class using any or all of these Guidelines.
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Trent, speak english to this polish guy would ya? Are you asking how that would be instituted?
I think from what it sounds like we need to focus on maybe three things ? What do you think?
Cubic Inch Limit
Carburetion limit ? Are we going to gauge cfm capabilities on efi engines?
RPM limits.
Hopefully everyone in the class would abide by an RPM limit showing the tech staff what it is, and not having a switched system for a different limit when they walk away.
Everything else should be open .....I think. Drives, Steps, Gear Ratios, Propellers, as long as the speed is kept consistent to the classes intentions.
Please suggest Opinions and Scenarios that would effect the class using any or all of these Guidelines.
I think from what it sounds like we need to focus on maybe three things ? What do you think?
Cubic Inch Limit
Carburetion limit ? Are we going to gauge cfm capabilities on efi engines?
RPM limits.
Hopefully everyone in the class would abide by an RPM limit showing the tech staff what it is, and not having a switched system for a different limit when they walk away.
Everything else should be open .....I think. Drives, Steps, Gear Ratios, Propellers, as long as the speed is kept consistent to the classes intentions.
Please suggest Opinions and Scenarios that would effect the class using any or all of these Guidelines.
classes in OPA with great teams. The goal should be to make the class more competitive as well as attractive for new teams to come and join the fun. We definitely do not want to move any team up to class 5.
CI limits, Carb limits, Restrictor Plates, RPM limits all are simple to check and can keep the competition close. Let's face it, it will never be equal. We are not a spec class. But, a reasonable HP limit can only make the racing better.
Rich
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ok J..... lol let me change the word "police" to enforce
We can come up with all the rules in the world, how will they be enforced? Nascar has a 20 million dollar budget per year on Sprint Cup tech alone. Does any association have the resources to properly enforce any "new" rules and/or restrictions put in place?
for example you can hook up a DDT to every single one of my motors, however it will not tell you that the 500 is @ 5600 rpm's, it will only tell you if and for how long I was on the limit. Unless you do a tear down of some sort, how can you tell that it is not @ the stock 502 that in fact it is at 504? oops I lifted my skirt on the beak, but I'll stay in Class 4 with her, you guys can put the 510, 5600 rule on Class 6 all day long
We can come up with all the rules in the world, how will they be enforced? Nascar has a 20 million dollar budget per year on Sprint Cup tech alone. Does any association have the resources to properly enforce any "new" rules and/or restrictions put in place?
for example you can hook up a DDT to every single one of my motors, however it will not tell you that the 500 is @ 5600 rpm's, it will only tell you if and for how long I was on the limit. Unless you do a tear down of some sort, how can you tell that it is not @ the stock 502 that in fact it is at 504? oops I lifted my skirt on the beak, but I'll stay in Class 4 with her, you guys can put the 510, 5600 rule on Class 6 all day long


