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TylerCrockett 01-27-2013 11:42 AM

Exstreme CLASS
 
How about 24 to 26 foot and unlimited HP for a 3 lap shootout for the 3 Michigan races.

gary cook 01-27-2013 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by TylerCrockett (Post 3856273)
How about 24 to 26 foot and unlimited HP for a 3 lap shootout for the 3 Michigan races.

Id love to come out and smack you :hitfan:

TylerCrockett 01-27-2013 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by gary cook (Post 3856283)
Id love to come out and smack you :hitfan:




What are you going to put a sail on your boat and power it with all your Hot Air !!!!!! :D

gary cook 01-27-2013 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by TylerCrockett (Post 3856384)
What are you going to put a sail on your boat and power it with all your Hot Air !!!!!! :D

I wont need the sail more than enough under the hatch.:eek:

Danielle said cherry chicken at winter garden not as good as the other place we went to.

GoFastSonic 01-27-2013 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by TylerCrockett (Post 3856273)
How about 24 to 26 foot and unlimited HP for a 3 lap shootout for the 3 Michigan races.

You would STILL find a way to BREAK OUT WHO YOU KIDDING!!!!!!!:cartman:

full_throttles 02-01-2013 03:00 PM

As an avid fan and attendee of all the Michigan races, I would enjoy watching an exhibition race like that. Just to see how much you guys can squeeze out of the smaller boats.

scarab63 02-01-2013 06:14 PM

And who'd insure this ?
;)

TylerCrockett 02-06-2013 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by scarab63 (Post 3859802)
And who'd insure this ?
;)




Same people when I enter Class 1 :D

36Tango 02-06-2013 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by TylerCrockett (Post 3856273)
How about 24 to 26 foot and unlimited HP for a 3 lap shootout for the 3 Michigan races.

Isn't class 6 and class 5 unlimited horsepower as it is? Sure seems like lots of HP in 70 or 75 mph boats.

If it was unlimited speed, would those boats then race in the class based on that top speed?

We might try to make a couple of Michigan races. We really had alot of fun in St Clair and was impressed with everything about it.

waterboy1 02-06-2013 01:21 PM

My personal opinion is that it is not safe running small open cockpit vee bottoms at those speeds.

TeamSaris 02-06-2013 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by waterboy1 (Post 3862605)
My personal opinion is that it is not safe running small open cockpit vee bottoms at those speeds.

Amen. Someones going to get hurt.

phragle 02-06-2013 04:59 PM

it would make a hell of a youtube video....

waterboy1 02-06-2013 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by phragle (Post 3862738)
it would make a hell of a youtube video....

But jeopardize the safety of the racers...and affect permits and insurance for all race events as well.

phragle 02-06-2013 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by waterboy1 (Post 3862796)
But jeopardize the safety of the racers...and affect permits and insurance for all race events as well.

As well as have Smitty brought up on some kind of Kavorkian charges... Promoter assisted suicide.

TylerCrockett 02-07-2013 06:42 AM

I guess I will just come back to Class 6 and run with the rest of the 900 HP boats !!!!!! :D

gary cook 02-07-2013 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by TylerCrockett (Post 3863054)
I guess I will just come back to Class 6 and run with the rest of the 900 HP boats !!!!!! :D

900 hp i had 450 hp and we bumped to 500 hp this year so we will move up to clas 5 because we are team players or is that just a player.:Whatever:

waterboy1 02-07-2013 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by TylerCrockett (Post 3863054)
I guess I will just come back to Class 6 and run with the rest of the 900 HP boats !!!!!! :D

Your certainly within the Class 6 parameters...but maybe HP limits can be implemented into the rules in the future.

scarab63 02-07-2013 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by waterboy1 (Post 3863090)
Your certainly within the Class 6 parameters...but maybe HP limits can be implemented into the rules in the future.

As an outsider looking in, just getting into class 6. I can truthfully say that reading on here and talking to others about the HP needed to play and be competitive in class 6 is nauseating & a bit of a deterrent
Luckily I'm not easily intimidated & am building a motor to put me on the same, or close to the same playing field as others.
Now if the hp parameters for 6 changed I'd be pissed.

A monster has been created. To change to hp caps now could possibly drive away more racers than it would potentially attract.

MD

Also from my talks with and listing to opa staff & insurers. This extreme class talk is just that....talk to kill them winter blues.
It would never fly......
:)$$$

bwd 02-07-2013 08:41 AM

It still has to run for more than one race . I think the key here is to have a package that doesn't exceed the wallet and does not have to be taken apart all the time. Save the money for the drives your going to lunch. lol. Just my opinion, unwanted I sure. BW

scarab63 02-07-2013 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by bwd (Post 3863118)
It still has to run for more than one race . I think the key here is to have a package that doesn't exceed the wallet and does not have to be taken apart all the time. Save the money for the drives your going to lunch. lol. Just my opinion, unwanted I sure. BW

Too late. Happy medium.
Shooting for a HONEST 700 with a xr

waterboy1 02-07-2013 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by scarab63 (Post 3863112)
As an outsider looking in, just getting into class 6. I can truthfully say that reading on here and talking to others about the HP needed to play and be competitive in class 6 is nauseating & a bit of a deterrent
Luckily I'm not easily intimidated & am building a motor to put me on the same, or close to the same playing field as others.
Now if the hp parameters for 6 changed I'd be pissed.

A monster has been created. To change to hp caps now could possibly drive away more racers than it would potentially attract.

MD

Also from my talks with and listing to opa staff & insurers. This extreme class talk is just that....talk to kill them winter blues.
It would never fly......
:)$$$

Yeah..can understand where your coming from;in the ocean races the variable conditionswill level the playing field...the COTNER TRAILERS boat proved that in 6...and TYPHOON proved that in 5.By the way,your 617 COMBAT ZONE is so cool..cant wait to see it this season.

sbracing 02-07-2013 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by scarab63 (Post 3863127)
Too late. Happy medium.
Shooting for a HONEST 700 with a xr

Sure that's going to be enough?

scarab63 02-07-2013 10:21 AM

Most likely not,from what I hear at least.
But that's all I can afford this yr

Well see.

MD

TeamSaris 02-07-2013 11:04 AM

I cant see how a 650 or 700hp limit in Class 6 would hurt turnout. I tend to agree with the Combat Zone guys...I bet there are a handful of guys who come on here interested in the Class to read about guys with 900hp and feel like they shouldnt bother.

Pwrbt33 02-07-2013 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by fast fun 2 (Post 3863223)
I cant see how a 650 or 700hp limit in Class 6 would hurt turnout. I tend to agree with the Combat Zone guys...I bet there are a handful of guys who come on here interested in the Class to read about guys with 900hp and feel like they shouldnt bother.

AGREED!! I think we might bow out gracefully this year being we only have 615 hp! It would be cheaper for us 3 to just fly to all the race sites and watch!

sbracing 02-07-2013 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Pwrbt33 (Post 3863350)
AGREED!! I think we might bow out gracefully this year being we only have 615 hp! It would be cheaper for us 3 to just fly to all the race sites and watch!

If that is the case, can we borrow your truck???

fantastixvoyage 02-07-2013 04:08 PM

K.I.S.S. really needs to go into effect. Enforce the 500hp rule for 6 and make the rest that want to run bigger power move up to 5. Why thats so hard to understand is beyond me but as long as they have a good turnout I guess nothing will change.

A huge class 5 or even 5/6 combined would be a kicka$$ class

sbracing 02-07-2013 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by fantastixvoyage (Post 3863401)
K.I.S.S. really needs to go into effect. Enforce the 500hp rule for 6 and make the rest that want to run bigger power move up to 5. Why thats so hard to understand is beyond me but as long as they have a good turnout I guess nothing will change.

A huge class 5 or even 5/6 combined would be a kicka$$ class

The issue with 500hp is everyone is now considerably above that mark. Also, there is no 500 rule to enforce. Other than the Bat boats and us, no one has been near
500. Combining 5 & 6 will never happen, it would be a step backward.

Fast Shafts 02-07-2013 04:35 PM

My first 3 years I had 450 horsepower.

swung6 02-07-2013 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by sbracing (Post 3863405)
The issue with 500hp is everyone is now considerably above that mark. Also, there is no 500 rule to enforce. Other than the Bat boats and us, no one has been near
500. Combining 5 & 6 will never happen, it would be a step backward.

It's cool that you know how much HP everyones boat has! My sh1t hasnt even been to a dyno and i guarntee its not far off whatever you & the other slow class 6 boats are run'n for HP.

sbracing 02-07-2013 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by swung6 (Post 3863420)
It's cool that you know how much HP everyones boat has! My sh1t hasnt even been to a dyno and i guarntee its not far off whatever you & the other slow class 6 boats are run'n.

Sorry, didn't mean to overlook you. Add Bad Newz to the around 500 hp list. Didn't mean to offend, meant only to make point most of class 6 boat are 600+ at this point

sbracing 02-07-2013 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by Fast Shafts (Post 3863418)
My first 3 years I had 450 horsepower.

How much in 2011 with the Bandit power?

2 Trick Rick 02-07-2013 04:46 PM

617hp in a 26ft Velocity = a Tawas Win :whistle: (maybe 619hp, I'll have to ask Gary)

So if you think you need 650/700/750 or 800hp your wrong, we pulled a great start and lead start to finish.

The key is not always BIG POWER.. the key is ;',dcqmcnqbnjbkcqbdcjdBACBasjkdcbaodbcabd (top secret)

swung6 02-07-2013 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by sbracing (Post 3863421)
Sorry, didn't mean to overlook you. Add Bad Newz to the around 500 hp list. Didn't mean to offend, meant only to make point most of class 6 boat are 600+ at this point

Not offended, just figured u'd be able to save me 500 bucks & I wouldn't need to dyno this thing. ;) see ya soon man.

swung6 02-07-2013 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by 2 Trick Rick (Post 3863429)
617hp in a 26ft Velocity = a Tawas Win :whistle: (maybe 619hp, I'll have to ask Gary)

So if you think you need 650/700/750 or 800hp your wrong, we pulled a great start and lead start to finish.

The key is not always BIG POWER.. the key is ;',dcqmcnqbnjbkcqbdcjdBACBasjkdcbaodbcabd (top secret)

Agreed, its all about the start & run'n a good line to keep ur corner speed up.

fantastixvoyage 02-07-2013 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by sbracing (Post 3863405)
The issue with 500hp is everyone is now considerably above that mark. Also, there is no 500 rule to enforce. Other than the Bat boats and us, no one has been near
500. Combining 5 & 6 will never happen, it would be a step backward.

I thought it was in the rule book, but haven't looked at one since 2008.

Again it is what it is and if it works for the powers to be then so be it. My opinion has always been to make 6 the intro or cheaper class with 500hp limit then have class 5 be the big power, sub-30' class. Who knows maybe it will go that way with crockett, dukes, wazzup 2 and other big power teams moving on.

swung6 02-07-2013 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by fantastixvoyage (Post 3863435)
I thought it was in the rule book, but haven't looked at one since 2008.

Again it is what it is and if it works for the powers to be then so be it. My opinion has always been to make 6 the intro or cheaper class with 500hp limit then have class 5 be the big power, sub-30' class. Who knows maybe it will go that way with crockett, dukes, wazzup 2 and other big power teams moving on.

Smitty has stated before that the wazzup 2 boat wont run 69 with 500hp. It's been debated before that if you put a 500hp cap on class 6, your gonna lose boats because everyone will need whichever hull is the fastest and not many peeps will run out and buy new hulls to be competitive.

Neil, what are you racing this year?

fantastixvoyage 02-07-2013 05:09 PM

Thats kinda my point...would have liked to seen wazzup and the likes in 5 but again thats only an opinion from a non-racer. I don't even know if there are really all that many people who would come out if there was a true "entry" class but the way 6 was last year no way was that entry level. Trying to beat wazzup, crockett and the likes would be quite a feat for newcomers. Seeing crockett put the hurt on 4 and boomer running an SVL should be pretty entertaining lol

Plan to make it out to a couple races with the phantom. Going to miss st clair so hard to get too excited about the season as that is one of the best events of the year. But i love tawas and spend a lot of time up there over the years so I want to support that race. Port Huron too since its so close. Doubt I'll do much more. Lots of other $hit going on this year again. You doing the full season this year?

TeamSaris 02-07-2013 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by fantastixvoyage (Post 3863447)
Seeing crockett put the hurt on 4

Good, good. lol

Pwrbt33 02-07-2013 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by sbracing (Post 3863368)
If that is the case, can we borrow your truck???

D!CK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:angry-smiley-038: Yes of course you guys can! :lolhit:


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