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Who the **** are you. Is that why Fountain and Corvette dominate I mean flat out Dominate the race circut. **** custom if you cant win a ****in race. This thread has been done for I dont know how long. So go get your ****in OL and come in behind first place. Just like your pussey ass OL. Im not talkin to anyone else but this guy. Buy what you want OLs are great boats, but they wont ever beat a Fountain in a true race period!!!!!!!! Just like how your Ferrai wont ever beat a Vette.

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It's funny when the shoe's on the other foot the mouth starts flapping, young and full of piss and vinegar. If you can dish it out, learn to take take it, and you need not try to rationalize some of your testosteronial BS :rolleyes: on me.TNOTHIN Learn to be constructive if at all possible, you remind me of Littledueshe. evilb: :D Jeff

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:drink: :drink: :drink:

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Ok whatever you say CMG. Like I care what you people say. Ive tried to be cool of late, I just made another point and Im done writing about this thread. I can take anything you want to throw at me Jassman.

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Class in session: History 102

I certainly hope you don't truely believe that it was Reggie that invented the step bottom.... :rolleyes:

That was invented before he was even born....

Hang around here long enough, and you just may learn something... :drink:

Click here for more HISTORY on the STEP DESIGN

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HELLO LADIES & GENTLEMEN ALSO TO YOU TNOTHIN HEY ONE THING THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND MAYBE YOU CAN HELP ME WITH HOW MANY F-1 RACES & WORLD TITLES HAVE CORVETTES WON ? I CAN'T RECALL ANY NOT EVEN THE MIGHTY GM HAS WON ANY F-1 TITLES. FOUNTAIN HAS WON A LOT OF OFFSHORE RACES OF LATE YOUR RIGHT ON THAT POINT BUT WHEN THE OTHER BOAT BUILDERS LOSE INTREST IN THE RACING THERE ISN'T MUCH COMPETION IS THERE I'VE BEEN LUCKY ENOUGH TO VISIT THE WELLCRAFT FACTORY WHEN THEY WHERE BIULDING SCARABS & ALSO VISIT CIGARETTES FACTORY LAST YEAR & OUTERLIMITS SO FOUNTAIN IS ON THE SAME LEVEL AS WELLCRAFT WHICH ISN'T BAD MY 43 HAS TRIP 1000'S & WILL RUN 105 ON GPS BUT THE QUALITY & CUSTOMIZATION ISN'T IN THE SAME LEAGUE AS OUTERLIMITS OR CIGARETTE. I'M SURE THE CHEAP BEER IS O.K. FOR YOU NOW BUT WHEN YOU GET SOME STYLE & TASTE YOU'LL UNDERSTAND THAT AN EXTRA COUPLE DOLLARS FOR AN IMPORT BEER IS WORTH IT. ALSO I'VE HAD ABOUT 5-6 VETTES & LOVE THEM ALL BUT THEY DON'T EVEN COME CLOSE TO A FERRARI. HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR STYLE & CLASS AS WELL AS PERFORMANCE. :cool:

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Well said :D

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You are all missin my point and what I am sayin. Corvette does not race in F1. They race in the American Le Mans Series. Ever heard of it? Fountain has not just been winning of late they have dominated for the past 20 years back when Reggie him self was racin, at the sametime Chuck Norris Don Johnson and Kurt Russel were racin. Other companies might have lost interest mainly in part probably because they want no part of a Fountain. And I do respect Ferris I love them I would love to have one any day. Quality is definately one thing and OLs might have Fountains beat a little bit in that part same as Ferri over Vette, But my whole point in this is forget the money. Who is first on race day? Corvette wins god damn near every race. Its a dynasty just like Corvette, and the 49ers of the 80s the Steelers from the 70s. You are all missin my point. I agree OLs and Ferris are custom and are unbelievable machines, but flat out Fountains and Vettes win races period. All you guys need to stop taking this **** personaly, to each is own. And then please tell me who invented the step bottom please, and I know for a fact it wasnt Mike Fiore thats for damn sure. Lets put it this way: about the Kilo runs in N.C. last year. Why did OL go home so quietly not even mentioning they had problems. Probably because they are a bunch of Pusseys! And if you want to talk about money then I guess you can put a price tag on fit and finish which Fountains are still damn good quality and they dont cost nearly as much as OLs, but thats fine spend the money and yes Outerlimits will still get its ass kicked on race day. Just ask Media Master when it when up against Nick Carter Racing all year. Hey I know my **** pretty well, but Im always wanting to learn more. And watch the Vettes race in GT1 class its not a race or competioin its a flat out joke its actually comedy if you ask me, If you race 10 times in a year you arent suppose to win every race, but somehow they do. So some of you people could learn some **** from me stop and think about that.

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To answer the step bottom question, it wasn't fountian or Fiore, I beleive it was some crazy british guy back in like 1890 or something. It was a sailboat and had like 7 steps.

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TNOTHIN, it's not that anyone doesn't want to give you credit for what you are saying, it is how you are conveying the message, and then looking for an argument. I don't know who you are, alias, or for what ever reason, but personally I dont really care. I think you are young, arrogant, immature, and have alot to learn, but that will come in time. Calling Mike Fiore and the OL guys a bunch of PUSEYS, proves my point. You weren't there, and do not know all the facts. If you want respect, you must earn it. Both Reggy, and Mike/Paul have respect, in different ways. Opinions are like *******s, we all have one. I have read all of your 40 posts, do us all a favor, think before you speak. Jeff

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Do you need to be taught how to read and what a web link looks like? :confused:

Click here for your answer.

Here is a quote from the site:

"Stepped Hulls

The concept was originally proposed by Rev. Ramus of Sussex England in 1872. He proposed both a single stop with tandem planing surfaces, and a combination of three pontoons with one forward and two aft. Indications are that these shapes were derived from model tests. Unfortunately, the heavy steam power plants of that day could not push a hull fast enough to plane, and take advantage of the new concept.

As early as 1906 there were published drawings for small stepped hulls with hard chines. William Henry Fauber [8] obtained a U.S. patent for hulls with multiple steps in 1908, but could find few people in the U.S.A. interested, so he moved to Europe.

Two small boats Solair (12') and Flapper (15') demonstrated the potential of stepped hulls as did the Harmsworth challenger Pioneer (5 steps) in 1910. (See Data Chart, Figure 12.)

The stepped hull began practical development about at the same time as the hard chined planing hull. A step in the bottom of a hull, raises part of the bottom surface so that it is no longer touching the water. Less wetted area. At the same time, the planing surfaces meet the water at a near optimum angle of attack over a wide range of speeds. The stepped hull is very efficient hydrodynamically."


Here is another man you should read about:
Garfield Wood "Gar"

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Hey nonothin - aren't you the same little boy teenager who's daddy supposedly bought him a condo and also claims to own an 05 Fountain? You slipped up on a different thread, you referred to boat as "ours" - In boating lingo it translates to "daddy's" .

Grow up you wanna-be.

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Point well made jassman I do just have an opion, maybe I do come across in a bad way and Im sorry. I would like to earn some respect so I would to just to start out sayin hey hows it goin nice to meet you and my name is Chad so whats up. Is that your OL in your picture? Because if it is it looks bad ass man.

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Thanks Sharkeymarine.

And for you Cmg ours whatever I made a mistake. And as far as you go you arent anything either so kiss my ass *****. I can be cool to who I want to be and Im not a teenager *****.

How do you know all that Sharkeymarine?

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Hello Ladies & Gentlemen Also Tnothin Vettes Are Very Sucessful In American Lemans & Once Again They Are Cool Everyday Sportscars But They Are In Fact A Big Fish In Alittle Pond & If You Would Like To Compare Them To Ferrari Then They Will Need To Step Up To F-1 As For The Stepped Bottom Hillbilly24 Might Very Well Be Correct One Thing Is For Sure It Was Not Reggie Or The Fiores If You Care To Talk To A Legend Such As Larry Smith He'll Tell You About Biulding Race Boats In The 70's With Stepped Bottoms & Also Think About A Scarab Called The 5 Boat That Had Everything Reggies 76 Boat Wanted Also Remeber That Don Johnson & Chuck Norris Raced Boats For The Fun Of It & Still Won There Share Of Races With Reggie Also Competing. Fountian Or Corvette Didn't Invent Racing They Are Just Competetors That Has There Success Noted In The History Books & Thats The Bottom Line!

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Well said I agree. But Corvettes do race Ferris in Le Mans they are more factory cars that people can buy. But yes Corvettes are not in the F1 class. In fact I dont even think any American cars race in F1. And yes the bottom line is having fun and competing that is what is all about. Heck I enjoyeed just goin out on my Buddys Ski Centurion the other day. I believe the sayin goes: anyday on the water is better than anyday at work, no matter what boat your on.

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didn't a DB9 lap Fellows and his dominant C6-R at sebring and win the GT1 class? and who are they competing against? Nobody else is pouring money into GT1 like Chevy is.... GT2 has more factory support than GT1 does... i could care less either way, i watch F-1....

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Yeah that was the C6-Rs first race ever and they have won the last two. And they lap everyone in GT 2 class. But thats cool F 1 does have the best drivers in the world and is more fun to watch I can say that.

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i would hope they lap GT2 class, i just think that is a more competive class with most of the factories supporting teams in that class... GT1 has turned into some one off teams running around (vipers, saleen, db9) running against a couple of factory teams and last years factory cars....

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Chad,
I used to build boats.
I raced OPC as well as Offshore.
I had my hands in everything from 13 foot Vee Bottoms to 36 foot catamarans.

Sometimes I wish I stayed with it due to how the technology has changed over the years.

Occasionally I get offers to come back to jump in on laying up a hull that is being vacuum bagged at a custom boat builder's shop that I used to sub contract for. If I ever get some free time, I just may do it.

Here was a few boats that I raced:

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When in doubt always ask Sharkey! No need to question his knowledge, he knows boats! He's like the Professor for History class!

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Damn those are some sweet rides Sharkey. I bet if those companies offered enough money you would do it, I know what your sayin, but no one hardly has anytime to do anything anymore I know how it is.

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Actually T2x is the walking offshore library. Need specifics? He is the man! ;)

Thanks for the compliment though Dee! :drink:

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Thanks Chad.
I had fun building the Bullet 130s as much as I had fun running them.
The Mirage was a great boat to race in. It took some serious hits out there in the offshore waters...

I miss not having the Bullet around. It was a blast.
Here is a pic from the NY Poker Run when I ran up against the Outerlimits.... :eek:

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Very true! I'll just refer to him as the mentor! :D

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:drink: :drink: :drink:

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All I know is that they both have forgoten more then I will ever know about the history of boats/racing.

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Fiberglass chemicals will do that to a person.... Memory loss sucks. :( :( :(

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No need to worry where they have been, but where they are going.... :drink: :drink: :drink:

Take a look at this line-up for the New Jersey Performance Powerboat Club's Atlantic City Poker Run coming up on June 25th to 26th :eek:

37 Outerlimits Tom Healey
39 Outerlimits Pete Mazzo
39 Outerlimits Mark Jameson
39 Outerlimits Joe Amoroso
42 Outerlimits John O'loughlin
42 Outerlimits Mike Fiore
42 Outerlimits Mark Kozik
42 Outerlimits Tom Toto
42 Outerlimits Scott Applegate
42 Outerlimits Enrico Pellechia
51 Outerlimits Bill Duckworth


Here is the complete list:

2005 Atlantic City Poker Run Confirmed Entries:

Charles Grossarth 27 Wellcraft
Bill Butterfield 28 Skater
Pete Gerardi 28 Skater
Carlo Inglese 28 Sunsation
John & Sue Tekin 29 Force
Tom Anselmi 29 Kryptonite
Chris Fenelon 30 AMT Cat
Bernie Martins 30 Spectre Cat
Mike Intile 31 Scarab
Mike DiBella 31 Sonic
Rolf Papke / ProRoc 32 Spectre
Gary Wimmer 32 Sunsation
Alan Petitt 32 Tempest
Frank Ali - Gifford Marine 33 Baja
William Maenner Jr 33 Donzi
Jerry Donato 33 Powerplay
Anthony Sauta 35 Fountain
Greig Lutz 35 Fountain
Bill Gifford Jr. - Gifford Marine 36 Baja
Tom Safar 36 Cigarette
Bill Gifford Sr. - Gifford Marine 36 Eliminator
Bob Christie 36 Nor-Tech
Jim Courtney 36 Nor-Tech
Charlie Amorosi 36 Spectre
Tom Healey 37 Outerlimits
Thomas Ambrosio 37 Profile
Drew Zimmerman 38 Cigarette
Rich dePierro 38 Cigarette
Joe Barbosa 38 Cigarette
Frank & Melissa Civitano 38 Donzi
Frank Martins 38 Donzi
Vincent Scimeca 38 Donzi
Jerry & Diane Monroe 38 Formula
R. Peter & Leonna Hodge 38 Formula
Robert Madison 38 Hustler
Robert & Esther Furmato 38 Hustler
Tim Vanderberg 38 Scarab
Pete Mazzo 39 Outerlimits
Mark Jameson 39 Outerlimits
Joe Amoroso 39 Outerlimits
Ray & Linda Schmalzigan 39 Sutphen
Rick & Janet Engstrom 39 Velocity
Steve Stepp / Velocity Powerboats 39 Velocity
John Ruggieri 40 Activator
Anthony Ricciardi 42 Fountain
John O'loughlin 42 Outerlimits
Mike Fiore / Outerlimits 42 Outerlimits
Mark Kozik 42 Outerlimits
Tom Toto 42 Outerlimits
Scott Applegate 42 Outerlimits
Enrico Pellechia 42 Outerlimits
Jim Haskell 43 Nor-Tech
Dick Roeder 45 Cigarette
Mike Libonati 45 Sonic
Ray Muir 45 Sonic
Chuck McQuillan 45 Sonic
Skip Braver / Cigarette 46 Cigarette
Mike Orecchio 46 Cigarette
Keith Workman 50 Hustler
Bill Duckworth 51 Outerlimits

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Sharkey - I saw XXX for sale in the mags at Cumberland or somewhere like that, do you know if Mike Fiore built something new??

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I don't know first hand Chris.

It says he will be in a 42 for AC. I haven't heard of anything different. Then again, Mike can really have anything he wants... :drink:
I wonder when the Cat will be coming out? :confused:

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FYI, I will be racing a 51 Outerlimits against the former Firewater Fountain in OPA this year so we'll see who follows who :evilb: It may happin as soon as this weekend if they can get their boat to Cape Cod on time.
the OL is on the road to its first Race
This is a very entertaining thread

PS, this is not my boat, I only drive it

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Scott, thats gotta be a bit different than the 24! :cool:

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I officially race the smallest boat in Offshore, and the biggest :evilb:

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scott b you are the man.
outerlimts on the circit once again.

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Scott your right about that this thread is entertaining I cant believe I actually created it. And it is good to have OL back out there, competion is what its all about, it will definatly be fun. All of us have some awsome boats.

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Let's not forget Obsession!

Click on the link below for a small clip @ Pt Pleasant
04_OPA_Race-Obsession
(Be patient, is may take a moment or 2, don't get click happy, just let the page load)

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:eek: That is one big boat to race!

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Thats what I was thinking, would'nt a 39' or 42' be more competitive? Why did they choose a 51'? Does Mike, Paul, and Joyce want to sip martinis in the rear while you drive :evilb: :drink:


Best of luck Scott!!

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It is my sponsors pleasure boat, and he wants it to race.
It wasn't purchased to race (18k lbs) but we should be able to hang
The turbines give it good speed and accelleration