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Stormrider 10-29-2007 08:33 AM

Sean... looks very promising.
Get a 26, 28, and 28lab... one of those will do it.
Did i ever say 80??? :rolleyes: ;)

MIAMIBOYZ 10-29-2007 08:33 AM

Sean,
Call me later and I`ll tell you what prop you need to get her on the right path. Glad to hear you were able to test her.

Stoli & Tonic 10-29-2007 10:59 AM

It's about f'n time (no offense to you Matt). Your right, the low quality video makes it sound like a stock Model T. Guess I'll have to come down for a ride to check it out myself. Cheers
:ernaehrung004:

Dude! Sweet! 10-29-2007 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by Stoli & Tonic (Post 2320870)
It's about f'n time (no offense to you Matt). Your right, the low quality video makes it sound like a stock Model T. Guess I'll have to come down for a ride to check it out myself. Cheers
:ernaehrung004:

Maybe you can drive the '67 Mustang! :D

Yah, as soon as we get 'er a little more dialed in, it's thrill rides for everybody! :D :D :D

Dude! Sweet! 10-29-2007 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by MIAMIBOYS (Post 2320723)
Sean,
Call me later and I`ll tell you what prop you need to get her on the right path. Glad to hear you were able to test her.

Thanks Allbert, I'll give you a shout. I know what you (and JO) told me previously, but I figured since we had that big wheel lying around, I might as well give it a ride. You know how it goes, testing is the best way to find out what's real and what's not! :D Besides, if we'd gone out and run 90 we would have been HEROS! :cool-smiley-027:

The plan now is to run a stock RH Bravo 28 (since I can grab one of those pretty easy) and also compare that to my 26. Plus try your suggestion if different from my plan. If the stock 28 works, then I'll try to borrow a labbed 28 (if anyone has one they'd be willing to loan out, I'll pick up the shippinng both ways, obviously).

Griff 10-29-2007 12:14 PM

Get a hold of Brett at BBlades. He should be able get you a 28 labbed test prop.

MM1 10-30-2007 01:26 AM

Have any of you guys tried a 5 blade prop or a hydromotive just to compare?

Dude! Sweet! 10-30-2007 04:49 PM

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Here's a couple photos of it completely assembled. MM1's handiwork...

mikeb4 10-30-2007 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Dude! Sweet! (Post 2322453)
Here's a couple photos of it completely assembled. MM1's handiwork...


Looks great Sean! I decided to use the unitops, I really like the way they look on your engine! :Score-101010:

There's something missing though ........ just one thing .... hmmm..... can't pin it down .......





Oh Yeah! :eureka:

A new Race Hatch!!

Dude! Sweet! 10-30-2007 06:08 PM

Thanks! I can pin it down! I've got the hardware! :D Looking forward to getting the hatch on Thursday!

The CMI's are pretty and had an added benefit of me already having them. I've heard from a reliable source that the SSM Gen 3 makes more power, but I didn't already have a set of those! A local guy cut off the tails and re-did them dry all the way out. It came out awesome and cost me half of what someone like Imco would have charged.

tomcei 10-30-2007 06:52 PM

Looks good Sean.
The headers are one piece now?

Elite Marine 10-30-2007 07:02 PM

Unitops are one piece. Its like getting the tails for free...

They cost about the same as most decent manifolds plus the risers. I too have been told that the SM make more power, and I beleive the source, but they are soooo damn ugly!!!

If anyone is interested in any CMI products. I will personally handle the transaction and give you the absolute best price out there!!

Kirk

Dude! Sweet! 10-30-2007 07:03 PM

Yup all the way out! whooma!

I also put up a couple of other videos on youtube for you guys. Nothing to specatular, but better than working! :D

Griff 10-30-2007 07:25 PM

Looks great. Can't wait to hear when it breaks 80.

So where is the water from the exhaust dumping???? In a pipe within the tail??? The part that you had extended just doesn't look thick enough to have water between the walls???

Dude! Sweet! 10-30-2007 08:37 PM

It's a pipe inside that's the same diameter as the internal exaust pipe, then the water runs in that jacket, that's about a 1/4" larger (ID to OD) than the inner pipe. The water comes out the bottom, except for a little that squirts out the top onto the flapper to keep the flapper from frying. It's pretty trick and looks similar to the Imco setup.

talon25 10-30-2007 10:13 PM

5 bades
 

Originally Posted by MM1 (Post 2321731)
Have any of you guys tried a 5 blade prop or a hydromotive just to compare?

I run a 5 blade on my 28 more than 1/2 the time I boat.
I ran three different props last Sunday, conditions were great, 1 1/2' to 2' chop, 60 degree dry air. 70 gallons of gas, full cooler, I'm 220 lbs and my passenger 240 lbs.
26 5 blade 80 mph at 5700-5750 rpms stock
26 4 blade 81 mph at 6050-6100 rpms labbed somewhere in Florida
26 4 blade 83 mph at 5800-5850 rpms labbed by Brett at Bblades

My engine liked this cool air, usally I am 2 to 3 mph slower in the summer with humidity.

I am borrowing a labbed 28 4 blade from another 28 owner to see what I can do with that.

JO - PANTERABOATS 10-30-2007 10:52 PM

83 MPH is real good speed with a true 650 HP. On the Richie's 28' I ran a stock 28' 4 blade Bravo 1 at 5300 - 5350 RPM and was right at 84 MPH on GPS with 2 people and 50 gallons of fuel.It was hotter temps and very windy conditions.I think Mike Cumming's new 28' ran 87 MPH up in Mayland with a labbed 28' at 5700 RPM but his motor is a little stronger.

If you can turn some RPM ( 5500 - 5600 ) with the 28' labbed in the right conditions you might see 85 MPH.

Regards,

JO

IRONMAN 10-31-2007 02:47 PM

What RPM's did your motor peak at on the dyno? Anything consistantly in the 80's without a blower is really good.

Dude! Sweet! 10-31-2007 05:13 PM

My peak was 5,700.

IRONMAN 10-31-2007 05:25 PM

Engine bay looks great Dude, That will haul with some dial in. I am trying to get some Ideas on target RPM's for my new power that I am building. Your drive must be pretty stout to take that kind of torque loading with a 32 wow.

Dude! Sweet! 10-31-2007 06:00 PM

Thanks Chris. Yours looks awesome too!

Brand new internals in the Imco. And an easy hand, my man!

Griff 10-31-2007 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by Dude! Sweet! (Post 2323647)
Thanks Chris. Yours looks awesome too!

Brand new internals in the Imco. And an easy hand, my man!

What all did IMCO have to replace????? There was hardly even any fuzz on the magnet at lube changes. Maybe the stock lower???

Dude! Sweet! 10-31-2007 10:10 PM

Basically, everything but the cases and the propshaft... That drive was at least 6 - 7 years old right? Imco said that there wasn't anything broken, everything was basically outside the acceptable tolerances. With the new power, I thought that I'd play it safe and take their advice. Who knows, could be BS, but I feel good about doing it.

Griff 10-31-2007 11:41 PM

All of my hours on the boat except for the first 5hrs were with that drive.

Dude! Sweet! 11-01-2007 12:15 AM

Nothing lives forever bud!

Stormrider 11-01-2007 08:17 AM

Cheap insurance....
easier now than later.

Dude! Sweet! 11-01-2007 09:07 AM

Nothing cheap about it, bud! :D

Insurance God 11-01-2007 01:27 PM

Let me know next time you are going to flush it out. I will record it and play it at home (over & over). Actually, I will get a ghetto blaster and play it in the dinghy so people will think i have serious power in that thing. :D

Stormrider 11-01-2007 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by Dude! Sweet! (Post 2324200)
Nothing cheap about it, bud! :D

Well, you coulda done nothing(which is free), and blown it up.
Then you'd have to fix it, not just freshen, and fix anything that happened cuz of it, and then there is always down time.

Dude! Sweet! 11-01-2007 03:59 PM

We're probably going to do a test flight tomorrow. Open your window tomorrow afternoon! :D

Dude! Sweet! 11-01-2007 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 2324667)
Well, you coulda done nothing(which is free), and blown it up.
Then you'd have to fix it, not just freshen, and fix anything that happened cuz of it, and then there is always down time.

Rob, I'm not saying it's not insurance, just saying it wasn't cheap! I spent slightly less than I would have had I bought one of those nice used Imcos that are currently for sale in the classifieds... But at least I didn't need to call Vessel Assists (yet!) :D

Stormrider 11-01-2007 06:14 PM

ahhh, speed aint cheap. i just had 550hp, and upgraded to xr internals in the lower w/ a new 'special' upper.
it's all in the maintenance... to enjoy boating.

ziemer 11-02-2007 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 2324795)
...it's all in the maintenance... to enjoy boating.

Yep. :cool:

Going tomorrow to pick up the boat and trailer. Just had new axles, brakes, all new carpet, and new stainless hardware throughout. :ernaehrung004:

I hope to go around Thanksgiving to get the floor fixed up. From the last couple of offshore runs, the bolsters aren't very well tied down anymore. :hitfan:

One of these days, I'll get enough together to re-do the interior too. That will be the final piece. :cool-smiley-026::cool-smiley-026:

Stormrider 11-02-2007 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by ziemer (Post 2325311)
Yep.

Going tomorrow to pick up the boat and trailer. Just had new axles, brakes, all new carpet, and new stainless hardware throughout. :ernaehrung004:

wiring still good? did that all myself... in the wire biz.

I hope to go around Thanksgiving to get the floor fixed up. From the last couple of offshore runs, the bolsters aren't very well tied down anymore. :hitfan:

i had the floor redone when i had it...
i think the correct thing to do, is to have metal plates glassed in the deck threaded or with bolts attached underneath... that'll hold the bolsters down.


One of these days, I'll get enough together to re-do the interior too. That will be the final piece. :cool-smiley-026::cool-smiley-026:
nice to know the only thing that really needs to get done is the only thing i never got to. :D

nice to see its still being well taken care of.

kitten 11-02-2007 10:10 AM

Pantera at SCOPE Poker Run
 
Pantera at SCOPE Poker Run :D


Not very often do I see a Pantera in Florida Power Boat Club. None in the membership.

We ran with the OPBA in St Pete /Sarasota.

Great photos!:D

Dude! Sweet! 11-02-2007 12:00 PM

It's funny, it seems like there are more Panteras on the great lakes than there are in Florida!

And on the mantenance thing... until you guys go car racing, you'll never truly appreciate how pleasant the whole boating thing is! :D

Stormrider 11-02-2007 01:22 PM

sean, you mean hi revving street racing engines need normal maintenance??? :D

Dude! Sweet! 11-05-2007 11:26 AM

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Friday was cut short by some teething problems again, but the results weren't exactly what we'd expected. Same guys as last time (size-wise) with a bit less fuel (since I didn't refill it). Only pulled about 5,500 rpms with the old bravo 26 on it and only saw a max of 72.4 (and pretty consistenly less than that) so I think it's time to start messing around with set up a bit.

I did get the new hatch on the boat on Saturday. Very nice. Thanks Mike! (And as usual, it's a crappy camera phone photo. :D )

mikeb4 11-05-2007 12:29 PM


Originally Posted by Dude! Sweet! (Post 2327715)
I did get the new hatch on the boat on Saturday. Very nice. Thanks Mike! (And as usual, it's a crappy camera phone photo. :D )

Cool, more pics!! I'm glad it bolted right up! after traveling 2/3rd's of the way accross the country :cheer:

tomcei 11-05-2007 05:41 PM

that's a pretty good pic for a phone.
Messing with these monsters can try your nerves. At least mine.
Keep after it!! If you still have my # call me when your on your way to work:cool-smiley-011:


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