28' pantera
 

Been looking at other boat lately and the 28' Pantera looks so much longer than Id expect a 28' to look, even on water..
It looks like a 30' boat.. is it just me? The design?
I really like the twin 28'.. is there also a 30'?

thanx

[QUOTE=ICDEDPPL;3256615]Been looking at other boat lately and the 28' Pantera looks so much longer than Id expect a 28' to look, even on water..
It looks like a 30' boat.. is it just me? The design?
I really like the twin 28'.. is there also a 30'?

thanx[/QUOT yes they do look longer thats because most outher boats made count the bathing platform when it is moulded in to the boat as you no platforms come up at a angle so the boat may be 30 foot but the bit that counts is only 27-28 with the pantera 28 you get 28 off hull in the water apart from beeing well made that is why they can run in the ruff stuff better than boats bigger than themselfs i have seen video of jo@pp kicking butt against boats with more power and more lenth check it out look under panteras raceing in 6/7 foot seas and you will see wot i mean regards paul 2001 28ft twin 496ho ps just working on my free baseball cap jo i no your watching

You won't go wrong with a 28 Pantera. If you want twins, try and go small blocks, I had a 28 with them and it was very well balanced, easier to work on and will save fuel$$.
If you want big block then I would go single.
Trust me you will not go wrong with a Pantera...."try" and find anyone who says that a 28 Pantera is a bad idea.

28 Pantera is a bad idea, get a 41:drink:

just messin with ya Angel:evilb:

Actually the only time a 28 pantera would be a bad idea is if ya liked fat chicks, its a little tight in the cockpit, but we like that, keeps the big'ns at the dock:grinser010:

for sale
 

28 single 496 B1 for sale on panteras for sale by owner looks clean

That 04 is sweet! Not sure upgrading for a 25' to 28' would make sense.. I think 30` is the minimum Id wanna go on the next one but the two 28' in the classifieds are petty nice

Just remember not all advertised 30's are a true 30'. Panteras 28 is bigger than most modern day 30 footers. You could however go to a Pantera 36'!! Schwing!

I used to keep my 292 on a lift nosed into a slip I only had three inches from my bow to the dock.My boat is 29.2 but a 28 ft Pantera would not have fit on my lift.Reason is because the running surface starts at the transom not angled in like most boats so there 28 has almost two more feet of running surface than my 29.
Was at the factory last Thurs Pepe gave me a tour the 41 he was working on is HUGE also had a 36 and a 28 that was being built.

My 28 Pantera was 30'2" when you included the swim platform. You are comparing apples to apples when compared to your 25 AT though. A 28 Pantera is about 3 feet longer. I think you have kids too, so keep in mind that your 25 AT is a lot deeper in the cockpit area than a 28 Pantera.

Good info.. thanx guys
Griff 3' not worth upgrading.. must go 30+:drink:

The 36 is a big talk to Joe or Pepe they might be able to help you out.

28 in classifieds
 

There's a 28 listed in the classifieds just a couple of days ago. Looks really clean. The transom looks strange to me. I don't know if its just a weird picture or not, but the bottom looks squared off. Almost like a fountain hull. Huh?

It has the notched transom. Some 28's have them, but most don't. Mine '96 28 had the notched transom. It puts cleaner water to the prop. Because of the notch, the X dimension is higher and you have to use drive spacers.

hey guys. I just bought that boat. does the notched transom affect the ride in anyway??

congrats on the purchase. Which boat did you buy and where do you boat? JAIME

Congrats! just in time to have it ready for summer. Please post up some pics when you get it settled in! ;)

Thanks,
I bought the 28 that was the classifieds with the 496 ho and the notched transom. Already pulled the motor to put in a 540. I.m down in miami were i boat with my buddys who have a 28 apache brave, the other a 28 pantera and a 32 stinger.

thanks, will do.

You have any relation to Laz from Mesa Balancing?

i know him, but not related.

Not really. If you get into big power, it will add a mph or two. I ended up changing from a 2" to a 3" drive spacer on mine. It carried the bow better, rode better at cruise speed and was about 2 mph faster at WOT than it was with a 2" spacer.

Let me know when ya wanna run the keys, I'll try to keep up in my little 24:drink:

great,
thanks for the info.

LOL!!
will do

...... this boat i was planning on picking up in a few weeks after i can prove that i got a new job. Looks like i may have to start looking at Cigarette 28ss...............

you run with a cool crew, definately get us some pics of the boats. Let us know what they have in them and how does that Apache run compared to the Panteras? JAIME

sorry bout that.:party-smiley-004:

thanks, my buudys Pantera has a 572 750 hp
the 28 Apache, single 635 700+ Hp runs maybe better than the Pantera.
the 32 Stinger twin 509's.
i'll get some pics once were all done.

How many boats are you going to let get away?:party-smiley-004:

From here on out if i find the one.... Im getting it.

put down the camera and pick up the rifle!

Hi slpcamaross wot about V ricks boat thats a real nice boat and beem well looked after not sure how much Rick wants for it now but i was temted to buy it last year if the deal fell out of bed on the one i was after as it hapend it didnt , spoke with Rick on the phone nice guy and i think that boats been loved and rubbed worth a look wrote this out befor i went on OSO there is all some intrest in Ricks boat on there and the price

hey guys,
let me clarify my last statement as far as the Apache vs. the Pantera. My meaning was the Apache was faster than my other buddy's Pantera by a couple miles, not by any means a better boat nor better in ride. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I love my new Pantera.

So is there any difference in the ride between the Pantera and the Apache?

That may be true for a twin engine apache that was converted to a single, but not so much on stock twin engine applications. Remember these boats are carefully balanced at the factory. When you drop off 1500lbs, its going to be a whole new ride. My boat rode different in just converting from cast iron to aluminum heads (roughly 250-400lbs difference). Obviously I think my boat has a better build and ride or I wouldn't of bought it, but your two boats are not really not a fair comparison seeing that one boat was designed by the factory as a single engine whereas the other was not. I doubt any 20 year old boat will ride well after it is converted from a twin to a single engine, pantera included.

Yes, there is a huge difference. I test drove a twin engine pantera before I bought my apache. Most every twin engine pantera has a porpoise. The one I test drove was so bad it was launching itself out of water on a glass calm day. It was a 1999 and had twin 454 7.4L (310hp). I've heard the same from many other twin engine 28 pantera owners. I have also heard there is a hook in the 28 pantera hull, but have not confirmed it. The 28 Apache has no porpoise at any speed. I drove the last year and half without working trim tabs. You couldn't do that with a twin engine 28 pantera.

I don't like to diss the twin engine pantera's, but chit man, that hull has existed for over 30 years, you would think they would adress this issue and quite frankly I'm tired of seeing people spend their hard earned money on them without knowing this stuff well in advance.

well, my buddys Pantera was originally with twin 350's and we converted to single just as we did with the Apache and they both have great rides.

Didn't catch that part, but good info to know. Perhaps a converted pantera rides better than a converted Apache?
I've heard the panteras with twin small blocks ride better than big blocks. Wasn't the pantera hull originally designed for twin small blocks? Harry Schoell did a great design for its intended application.

Who boats in glass calm water and what fun is that.:evilb::evilb:

My Father began building and delivering twin big block powered Pantera 28's back in 1978.Mostly every Pantera 28' before 1993 was powered by twin big blocks, or twin and triple outboards. There was a few single big blocks and even diesel power also in there.

The Pantera 28' model has an 11 degree transom angle and does "NOT" have a hook in it. It does have a rocker on the bottom which carries the bow with very little trim and gives it fast top end speeds. The Pantera 28' model has won many races in the past 35 years with a single big block, twin small blocks, twin big blocks, and even twin and triple outboards.

It boils down to how you drive it.A few customers on the twin engine version might just over trim the boat at slower speeds causing the rocker to carry the bow until it settles back down at higher speeds. Also prop design , drive height , fuel capacity, also come in to play.

Leave the drives tucked in or out 1-2 points at cruise speeds, and when making WOT runs push the throttles forward then trim it out 3-4 points which is all that is required for the best top end speeds and the boat will not porpoise at all.

Now with the new T.S. bottom the attitude has changed with much higher speeds and a bit flatter ride. Awesome !!:drink:

JO