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vintage chromoly 06-10-2013 11:24 AM

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When the deck was originally installed there was no deck/floor to stringer/hull bonding. After I cut the floor out I decided I wanted to bond the hull/stringers to the re-installed floor. To this end I decided to install two small stringers near the hard chime and directly under the floor seam I made when I cut the floor out.

The new stringers were bonded to the hull then the deck was glassed to the stringer and then the floor was bonded and glassed in.

Also, I glassed in another layer of 3/4 plywood on the bottom side of the floor where the pedestal seats get mounted. There was no issue with the bases being compromised but I figured 2" of substrate was better than 1" to lag screw the seat bases back to.

Here are some pics of the new stringers and the additional floor "meat".

vintage chromoly 06-30-2013 07:30 PM

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Got the floor back in and started the gelcoat process in the bilge. I'm going for a smooth finish in the bilge so it requires a ton of sanding and blending. This is the waxed gel that I used a "dump" gun to blow in. It was tricky to get the hang of but it will be worth it in the end.

Here's a pic:

dba900 07-03-2013 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by vintage chromoly (Post 3940136)
When the deck was originally installed there was no deck/floor to stringer/hull bonding. After I cut the floor out I decided I wanted to bond the hull/stringers to the re-installed floor. To this end I decided to install two small stringers near the hard chime and directly under the floor seam I made when I cut the floor out.

The new stringers were bonded to the hull then the deck was glassed to the stringer and then the floor was bonded and glassed in.

Also, I glassed in another layer of 3/4 plywood on the bottom side of the floor where the pedestal seats get mounted. There was no issue with the bases being compromised but I figured 2" of substrate was better than 1" to lag screw the seat bases back to.

Here are some pics of the new stringers and the additional floor "meat".

Out of curiosity, how did you re-attach the floor? Any photos? Our 24' Superboat and 24' Excalibur were built this same way and I'm sure we'll have to cut out the floor to replace the gas tanks one day.

Great job, by the way. I'll be interested to see how this turns out when you're done.

vintage chromoly 07-27-2013 10:16 PM

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psc368d990.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps05d0905b.jpg
:whistle:

Look what I found.

vintage chromoly 08-02-2013 04:38 PM

On the rotisserie. This thing is as stiff as a wedding dick. I have the pivot a tiny bit too high so I can only swing it 90 degrees by myself. With a helping hand it should flip right over.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps60b2aff6.jpg

vintage chromoly 08-02-2013 05:21 PM

A couple more:

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps51fbe42e.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps227f79da.jpg

88bullet 08-02-2013 06:56 PM

Looking good my friend!!! nice job!!

scippy 08-03-2013 12:26 AM

Vintage Chromoly........I've seen alot of methods to rotate a boat from a stationary position, but that's ingenuous!..........what gauge steel is that?
If I didn'e see it already half rotated I would have thought you would need bracing at the corners of the rotisserie frame so she won't pitch.

vintage chromoly 08-03-2013 06:09 AM

Thanks Tim!

Scippy, the steel is 1/2 inch "c" channel. As I was building it I thought I would need angle braces as well but, the steel is so thick and stiff none were necessary. I can shake the boat with all my strength and it doesn't even flex.

The funny thing is that when I'm done with the rotisserie, I'll probably burn it apart and scrap the steel. I got all the steel from a demolition job at work so I have only welding wire and argon gas invested in the thing.

Maybe I'll try to give it away first. He back stand will fit any bravo drive boat but he front mount it custom for my hull. I'm sure someone could modify it to work on another boat so maybe I can pass it along to the next guy.

Thanks to all who are following this grand experiment I call a hobby.

scippy 08-03-2013 11:40 PM

VC,

At some point I intend to blue-print the hull bottom on the 27' sport before she's rigged. I have the advantage right now (like you I think) of a bare hull.
I can't see myself on my back on a creeper undertaking a task like that. I'm sure it's down all the time, but not for me. I have the room and the shop to
this in I just gotta believe...........Don't know how much your boat weighs, but mine seems like stone henge!

vintage chromoly 08-04-2013 07:05 AM

Hey scippy. My boat is heavy. I'm guessing 2000 pounds or so bare. I never weighed it but it definitely has mass.

I sanded the bottom paint off my 75 searay micro hotrod and shot it with ppg concept on my back. Never again!

If you can weld, you can fab up this rotisserie in a few evenings. Like I said, I'll give this one away when done if y care to drive to Ohio to pick it up. Probably a month or so before I'm done.

Have a good day all, rob.

phragle 08-04-2013 08:09 AM

If he doesn't take it when your done I will... Im just in Toledo......

scippy 08-04-2013 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by vintage chromoly (Post 3970483)
Hey scippy. My boat is heavy. I'm guessing 2000 pounds or so bare. I never weighed it but it definitely has mass.

I sanded the bottom paint off my 75 searay micro hotrod and shot it with ppg concept on my back. Never again!

If you can weld, you can fab up this rotisserie in a few evenings. Like I said, I'll give this one away when done if y care to drive to Ohio to pick it up. Probably a month or so before I'm done.

Have a good day all, rob.

VC,.............I'm definately interested soo please let me know when your in no more need of the rostissserie.................I have a dodge 2500, I guess if it has to be broken
down or maybe possibly taken in sections............we can figure that out later...................Thanks,Scippy

vintage chromoly 08-14-2013 05:58 PM

Just dropped off my complete interior at xt-innovations.
After talking with Dave and his people, I knew I was in the right place.

:coolcowboy::coolcowboy:

john s olson 08-17-2013 05:09 PM

Hi, out of curiosity, I have same boat and mine was converted years ago by previous owner to outboard on a bracket. I have same deck layout, looking at Pantera website, can't find any pics of that configuration. I ask as my boat never came with a title or any hin #s, so I am not sure if mine is a Pantara, Superboat or Excliber.. Mine is identicle to yours. I don't have any pics of mint to upload just yet.

vintage chromoly 08-17-2013 05:54 PM

It highly unlikely it's a pantera. They only made the first 4 boats with the rounded deck (Excalibur style deck).

Mine is #2 and has the HIN hand stamped in the transom. WCW is the HIN prefix for a true pantera and unless it's there, you likely have one of a different manufacturer.

Still a cool boat but unlikely a pantera.

Have a good night, rob

vintage chromoly 08-17-2013 05:56 PM

Also, if you look closely at the "history" page on the pantera website, you will notice the #1 boat has the rounded deck.

john s olson 08-18-2013 09:00 AM

Hi, my stiffiners along the stringers look similar to yours, ill try to get some pics today if I have time.. When I ground off all the old gelcoat from previous owner , I found a yellow boat, entirely inside and out, with a red stripe down the deck and top of transom.. Nice bright colors, just the gelcoat was too old to be saved. I wanted to rotisserie the boat, but didn't have the set up you had.

john s olson 08-18-2013 09:07 AM

Hull 001 looks straight not curved on the deck, however your hin says all

vintage chromoly 08-18-2013 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by john s olson (Post 3978649)
Hull 001 looks straight not curved on the deck, however your hin says all

Look closely. It's curved!
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psd1e11ade.jpg

bigboat28 08-18-2013 12:37 PM

Good choice on XT, they did my interior a year ago and it is very nice.

john s olson 08-18-2013 04:46 PM

I think I can see the ridge that curves. If you are interested, I can send you my pics to compare, have to do that by e mail though.

vintage chromoly 08-31-2013 08:21 PM

Got a coat of catalized enamel in the bilge. It's as hard as a rock! Started to sand it back for the final finish coat.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psea461a31.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps7fdec226.jpg

Block sanded the bottom all week long after work. It had several ripples and a slight hook on one side near the transom. Filled all the gouges and shot the waxe gel on the starboard side this morning.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps09b47566.jpg

I'll finish sand the waxed gel this week and shoot it with a finish coat of gel/durtec.

Then, back on the trailer for final blocking and PAINT.

JAIME 09-01-2013 12:34 AM

work looks great, what color you going with?

vintage chromoly 09-01-2013 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by JAIME (Post 3986751)
work looks great, what color you going with?

Hello Jaime. Black sides, white deck and bottom. It will be shot in ppg dcc concept single stage.

scippy 09-01-2013 10:12 PM

I really like what she'll look like (post #100) after she's painted......................ppg concept is good even below the waterline?

vintage chromoly 09-02-2013 08:35 AM

Me too skippy. That picture is the inspiration for my color choice. I wrestled wih changing it because I was unsure if changing up the color was not keeping with the history of the hull. After much thought, I decided to paint it like the #1 hull.

The bottom will be gelcoat but I have used concept on the bottom of a trailered boat. I painted my little searay in 2003 with concept (including the running surface below the hard chines) and it had held up great.

I'll be done with the rotisserie in a couple weeks if you are still interested in driving to come get it. FYI, I drove from Long Island to my place in 8 hours.

scippy 09-05-2013 12:26 AM

[ The bottom will be gelcoat but I have used concept on the bottom of a trailered boat. I painted my little searay in 2003 with concept (including the running surface below the hard chines) and it had held up great.

I'll be done with the rotisserie in a couple weeks if you are still interested in driving to come get it. FYI, I drove from Long Island to my place in 8 hours.[/QUOTE]

I agree, gelcoat for the bottom and leave the ppg concept for above the waterline..........your moving at a good rate of speed thanks to rotisserie ingenity!
When you think your close , I'll give you a call to discuss pickup................I'm probabely close to 7 hours away!

vintage chromoly 09-25-2013 06:26 PM

Picking up the interior from Dave at xt-innovations tomorrow.

Sneak peak:

Front buckets
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps84532811.jpg

Embroidery on the back of the front buckets
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps7d3d9d1b.jpg

I'll post a bunch tomorrow when I get the interior home.

88bullet 09-25-2013 07:21 PM

niccceeeeeeeeeeeee

vintage chromoly 02-03-2014 12:18 PM

Hello all. Been slowly working on the 24-7.
I have the bottom almost wet sanded to 1500. Another day and I'll be ready to start buffing the gel.
Once I get the bottom gel all buffed out, I'll put it back on the trailer and start mocking up the engine compartment.

I have the carb at cfm performance getting the full treatment and the brodix heads are ported and going for a valve job this week. After the valve job, off to be flow tested so I can have some numbers for bob madera for a cam grind.

Also, been toying with the dash console as far as gauge layout goes.

Just thougt id post an update for those who may be interested.

Have a good day all,

Rob

vintage chromoly 03-06-2014 06:57 PM

Started laying out the dash. I just got all my autometer marine gauges and angled bezels in the mail. Nice stuff!

I'll have:
GPS speedo
Tach
Fuel level
Fuel psi
Voltmeter
Oil psi
Oil temp
Water psi
Water temp
Trim
Vacuum

Also, bought the rest of the hardin external steering system (all the inside stuff)

And lastly, bought a nice pair of lightning headers with dry tails last week.

Some pics:
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps60a65c33.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psc6d3893a.jpg
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps72491e1d.jpg

Patiently waiting for warmer weather so I can get the hull in color.

Sunrocket24 03-15-2014 08:00 AM

Nice work!! isn't laying out gauges on 24/7's a PITA! I'm doing new panels on mine right now. I didn't realize how small the dash panels are until I added a small GPS.

vintage chromoly 03-15-2014 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Sunrocket24 (Post 4090074)
Nice work!! isn't laying out gauges on 24/7's a PITA! I'm doing new panels on mine right now. I didn't realize how small the dash panels are until I added a small GPS.

I agree. Not much real estate on these consoles.

Here's an updated pic. Got all the gauge holes drilled and the gauges mocked up:

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps88aca7bd.jpg

JAIME 03-15-2014 06:56 PM

nice and shinny. keep the pics comming

NewBanana 03-15-2014 07:04 PM

Nice job bro..

Sunrocket24 03-15-2014 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by vintage chromoly (Post 4090110)
I agree. Not much real estate on these consoles.

Here's an updated pic. Got all the gauge holes drilled and the gauges mocked up:

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps88aca7bd.jpg

NICE!! I will have some pics of mine soon, they are basically done but my bezels are back ordered from CP performance. I hope I get my order next week so I can finish the panels.

AJ POWERPLAY 03-17-2014 03:00 AM

very nice thread... looking forward to more pics :ernaehrung004:

AnurajShah 03-25-2014 06:09 PM

Vintage, your Pantera is coming along really nicely!!!

I am currently designing my interior and am wondering what width you used for the pleats on your seats.
Thanks.

vintage chromoly 03-26-2014 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by AnurajShah (Post 4095684)
Vintage, your Pantera is coming along really nicely!!!

I am currently designing my interior and am wondering what width you used for the pleats on your seats.
Thanks.

Thanks man.

The pleats are a tad more narrow than 2 inches. Pretty sure they cut 2 inch strips and sowed them together.

Rob


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