my screen name is my real name and it's the same name I use on every forum. I made a name on here 5 years ago when I was looking at Baja outlaws and had a Baja islander. 64coupe aka Steve had gotten me into pantera's over the past 3 or 4 years as my Baja turned out to be a piece of ****. I've always been more involved with my seadoo's, bikes, and cars, but now getting older I kinda like the boats. Not new to boating, been doing it my whole life. I've fallen on hard times too in the past and feel a little for Pepe. I've spoken to him and he's not a bad person, just fell on hard times. The guy is still helping his customers after all of this and I think something has to be said for that. Am I still suspicious?

I have laughed so hard over this comment -- 15 mins worth - that I'm sweating I had no idea that you were this funny.

For some reason that is really funny.

Sorry

This is funny to -- holy crap there is some funny comments here LMFAO

BUP, the way you share you're wealth of experience and knowledge (most of which is over my head) with this forum, makes my little contributions look insignificant. I'm happy it made you smile.

@ Wboulton, there's good lurkers and bad lurkers, I reckon you're in the clear.

RR

Take some time and go into the court filings https://www2.miami-dadeclerk.com/off...ardSearch.aspx regarding Pantera boats, Pantera poerboat ( they used a number of names) and you'll find significant judgments against them going back almost as long as they have been in business. Do a search here and you'll find stories that are representative of a bad business and apparently someone (Berk) finally took the time and money to take them to court and now they have no molds. Maybe they'll do better selling logo wear or does Berk own the logo also ?

That's any manufacturer of cars or boats, I see it all the time. Look up any manufacturer and you'll find tons against them all the way back to the beginning. Doesn't mean anything.

Doesn't mean anything? It actually means they dont take the time to resolve small issues that bloom into big problems. An occasional crazy customer is one thing. Years of judgments is another thing completely.

Florida, the sunny state for shady people.... Cant be said enough. South Florida is its own microcosm of lawlessness.

Actually it means they were very dishonest and lost their business. Just think if they hadn't screwed a bunch of people they could still be making boat or retired and sold the molds for a profit.

I think if you were screwed out of thousands of dollars you my think differently

I've been screwed out of plenty of money, **** happens. I'm just saying they're not bad people and they weren't out looking to screw people. What happened, happened. It's a sad story and sad for all parties involved.