Last pic.

JO, THAT IS A SICK BOAT, CANT WAIT. DOMZ

Hey DOMZ:

I thought I was going crazy...It looks great. I really like the way the paint is on the deck..fabulous!

Hang in there bud...you're not far away from splashing..

Ron L.

THATS THE FIRST TIME I SAW THE DECK, THAT DOES LOOK AWESOME. I CANT WAIT TO GET OUT THERE ON THE LAKE. THANKS ALOT , KEEP IN TOUCH. 518-376-4285

Hey Dom, What you see has not been water sanded or buffed or waxed ! Later, Pepe.

Any News Im gona have mine worn out

Hey JROMY:

No, I am not offended. I've waited to post until I have collected my thoughts in hoping to get people to understand this company.

I think it very important that people understand the boat, the facility and the people behind the company. The facility is 20,000 sq.ft., not 200,000. The boat is custom, therefore, there are no hulls lying around waiting for someone to come in and buy one. They are made to order. If someone wants one, then it gets built. The people behind the company are 4. A family business. Pepe and JO literally get in their boats during the manufacturing and do whatever is necessary to make them. Question: How many Founders and Presidents of Boat companies turn screws, test boats, run for parts, adjust cabling, etc...? In this case, if Pepe stubbed his finger or toe...what happens? Exactly my point. If JO gets sick or hurt...what is the result? This all effects business and the production of boats. I would be wrong if I didn't mention that for every good man there is a great woman, and with all that has happened to the guys last year, Linda is right there. Finally, if none of the above works, Barbie has no boats to deliver.

All this said....we live in an age of lightning fast information and technology inconceivable 30 years ago. People want their boats on schedule. They don't want to wait and become impatient. This may be true for other companies that use stockholders money to mass produce boats and to pay the president to appear at races for sponsorship or to promote their company.

These people can't do that because without them at the factory, no boats will be made.

I know, I talk too much. I realize people have issues. And I also know exactly how long I have waited. I thank you for your concern. Fortunately for me, I understand this Company and I understand the people. We all have problems and we all need to work things out. I've sure taken my share of ribbing from my friends, but in the end, they will be silent because they'll be holding onto their cajunes as we fly through the air and settle back into the water like a feather hitting a pillow.

We'll be blasting on LIS soon!!!

Ron Lombard

Ron,

I couldn't agree w/ you more & commend you for taking a stand for what you truly believe in regardless of the ribbing one might get. You hit the nail on the head & I couldn't have said it better myself. There are so many that are so quick to criticize yet they never take the time to walk in ours or Panteras shoes. They can't understand the relationship the customer & the Nunez family have w/ one another. They have no clue how they put their heart into every boat they build not to mention the extras Pantera throws in at their own expense. I believe we get what we pay for! You can a get a decent steak @ Outback fairly quickly but if you want to enjoy a quality piece of meat you'll go to Palms or Ruth Chris. It not only takes a little longer it costs more too but there is no comparison.

Sincerely,

A very proud & satisfied soon to take delivery Pantera Owner.

Michael

I cant agree more, best boats. WORTH THE WAIT. DOMZ

FT 525...I saw your boat over 2 months ago, all it needed was the bolsters, drive, hydraulic steering, some minor interior cabin work. Seems kinda slow to me.

Pantera has alot of business right now.
Because they build an excellent product and stand behind it. I think everyone agrees with that.
For the guys watching the production on one or two particular boats, there is a larger picture and other boats are being built.
These boats are a large investment and there is pressure on all parties. The new owners are dying to get their boats and
the Nunez family is working very hard to meet their commitments.
I realize those questions come parties probably interested in owning a Pantera themselves. Guys, these boats are worth the wait.
Pantera will not cut corners to rush a boat when they are very busy.
I'm also patiently waiting on a repower.
I also know that when it get it the boat will be done right!
Greg

Guys I hear what you are saying, and I think this in a very informative thread for anyone thinking about buying a Pantera. It sounds like you were well aware of the time it takes to get one of these boats, and were willing to accept the long delivery for what we all know is one of the best products on the market.

For me, this thread has certainly made up my mind not to buy a Pantera new. Perhaps I am impatient, but I honestly don't have the money or time to wait for one of these boats ( I can't imagine having boat paments, insurance payments, slip/rack storage payments for multiple seasons without a boat to actually drive!) Perhaps I am also anti-social, because I am not looking to join the Nunez family or for that matter, have them join mine! They have been very pleasant to me in posts on this website, and I would love to meet them and have a cold beer, but if I'm buying a boat, that is all I want- a BOAT - Not a long term relationship with a boat builder!

I look forward to seeing FT 525's boat here in the next week or so and am sure I will be impressed! In the mean time, I will be perusing the classifieds under the USED section!

buy too olds then.

Then buy a Bayliner!!!!!!!!!!

No Boat?

He ain't knocking the product, just the run-around.

Interesting thought...:rolleyes: Perhaps I am a bit naive, but does it take a lot longer to bolt an outdrive on a Pantera than a Bayliner?

There have been a bunch of gorgeous boats on the market recently. Hopefully I get some decent offers and can sell my boat soon, so I can seriously look at what is out there!

I looked at a new one around the same time 525 bought his and found a used one, I was told 8 weeks a year later ron doesnt have his It makes me wonder today if I had bought new would I have a boat yet ?I know I will come under fire for this. But I want to upgrede In the future and would I wait ?

Dear Mr. Jromy: I do not have a clue who you are, you probably know who I am. As for the Nunez's family goes, I have been married to my wife for 35 years, I have had a son and a daughter for over 30 years, so I am definetely NOT looking for a family !!! I think you are getting a litle personal here and I will ask you not to mess w/ my family PLEASE.
Maybe you meant the Pantera fam. and that is your perogative. If you buy used that is great, we will asist in any way we can, as you can ask Mr Bstubb whe he bought used we still got him a new trailer at cost! Even thou we never made penny one from his boat deal!!!
I am sorry but that is the way we are, Some people appreciate it and some don't!!!
Yes, we have taken longer than we should have, but things are turning around and we are busier than ever,
If you ever decide to buy used, we would love to have you as a Pantera owner so that you may experience first hand that we are a people friendly business, not putting a show to suck you in.

Later, Pepe.

Brian, I believe you are old enough to know if you want to wait or not. We are working towards having a 3 to 4 months turn around time. As a result of that we are going to have a price increase on our boats. It will be necessary since our boats take a lot of time to build and as a result we have hired more employees Later, Pepe.

Hi Pepe - I was just trying to make a point, please don't think I was getting personal. I by no means want to offend you or your family (especially if I end up buying a used Pantera - we might have to do some boating together! :) ) I understand that the operation has been geared up and I'm sure we'll see all of these boats pumping off the line soon!

Jeremy

Sniff...this is all well and good, but where's FT 525's boat?

Some people just have nothing to do all day but *****
and cry and stirring up something for the sake of what.




One proud owner of the baddest true 28`8 out there

Indy, I did not see your name on FT525 order form, and I am sure Ronnie knows where HIS boat is.

If you remember, I stayed on a Saturday and waited for you a couple of hours to show you around when I knew you were not coming to buy anything, I thought I was being polite, but I guess you did not appreciate it, we all know that due to 2 serious accidents we fell behind, All I can do is try harder to make things better, I just don't understand what is your problem.

I take this concern of yours as part of the boat business . Believe me , nothing surprises me anymore, thanks God that I still have the passion and desire to build the best boat I know how, otherwise i could not put up w/ all the cyber police!!!
Later, Pepe.

Yes I am old enough to know I would not wait 2 years for a boat .If I found a 36 done or very close and could nail down the details in the future I would concider it .As for the trailor I just asked to purchace a trailor I didnt ask for anything free it was within a 100$ of the 3 places I looked I bought it from pantera cause I wish to suport the company .The end . As for the Nuneses I have found them to be the most pleasent people around I have enjoyed the conversations Ive had very much ,without kissing anyones butt.

Pepe...that consideration you showed is appreciated. I too got frustrated with the airline's inability to deliver my luggage from the same plane that I was on! As a small business owner for many years, I showed the same consideration to all potential clients since they are the ones who keep the business going. Some came through, some didn't, but that's what you have to do to keep it going.

I will be in the market for a new boat, this is the first year I've not had a boat in 33 years and I'm dying, but home expansion/remodeling will keep me from a purchasing for another year. However, I am actively looking for a product that will keep me happy for years to come. Your reputation made me look into your product and do some research with those who own your product. I'm simply not comfortable with what I was told. In the end, each has to make their own decision...I wish everybody the best.

I also know 525 knows where his boat is!! My initial curiosity came from 525 posting pictures last summer of his boat and stating that he was going to have it in the Norwalk boat show. I was very excited that it was going to be in it because it's local to me and I was curious to see one in person. When I saw it a couple of months ago, it was basically the same as the picture he posted last summer. That aroused my curiosity. I was looking to get a ride in it last year, mainly because of the reputation it has on this board.

I'll pass on the purchase of a new Pantera, but the quality you showed is obvious and would consider a used one since it would do well in my waters.

Good luck and I look forward to seeing 525's soon.

Every Pantera owner has had too wait longer than they had wanted to, have you heard anyone complaining after they got it? I haven't:eureka: Not one!

Hey Guys:

I always wanted to be popular, but it looks like my boat is getting all the action. :D

In any event, I believe that my boat will be finished shortly and I definitely know that it will be worth the wait.

"Can't we all just get along?"

PEPE, QUALITY IS WHERE IT IS AT. Full throttle, you and your boat are very popular. Hope to see you soon on LIS.

I too had a Pantera built new, and yes it took longer than I thought. I could not be happier though. Here is a couple reasons other than the obvious. I show up at the factory and I see Jo and Pepe staring at boat and talking. I walk over and they are discussing my switch panel and how it looks. After 2o minutes of throwing around ideas, they decide to change it.
I walk in another time and there is what looks like to me a big wooden rowboat on my boat. I ask Pepe and he said he is building a mold for a fibreglass windscreen. He has never done the molded windscreen on my style 24 and I was going to be the first boat done that way.
It is an incredible improvement over what I thought I was getting. (All this is done at no extra cost by the way)
While my boat was being built, I indicated my desire to race P class and Joe and Pepe talked to me for hours about racing and I learned a ton from them. When I raced mt first race in Marathon, I was the only Pantera in the race and the entire Nunez family drove down to watch the race and hung out at my boat the whole day.
That same scenario was repeated when I raced the Worlds in St Pete.
I could go on and on but my point is:
Whether your spending a small amount of $ with them like myself or dropping a large amount for a 36, they put a ton of time, effort, and thought into ever little detail of every boatand that burns time.
I have been stopping by the factory often in the 3 years since I purchased my boat, and every single time they drop what they are doing to show me the newest boat they are building or a new idea they had.
Just last week I walked in and got a tour from Pepe showing me the new paint on a 36 and the custom engraved tabs going on all new Panteras. Joe has offered to come and spend a day testing with me when the new engine goes in. They just put a new interior in my boat at cost, they built me a race hatch for free.
I am just one customer who has taken up a lot of valuable time on their dime. They treat everyone who walks in the door like that so I don't know how they have time to ever get a boat done.
Don't get me wrong, we had our moments and a few little spats along the way. In the end, I know the decision I made was the right one. I am much more than satisfied with my experience, I love the boat, I have gained the Nunez family as friends, and I would buy another one in a heartbeat when I am ready.

Scott, well said.

Still no complaints from Pantera owners! I'm not surprised:eureka:

Im tired of debateing the name pantera and the people that make em Im a boater love building them working on them building motors . Lets all take the out drive off our boats tear them apart and lets talk .

I bought a boat that ran 73 mph worked the botom /drive/ tuned on it now runs 85 . lets hear some details

Re: Hey Full Throttle 525
 

Huh? Once more, in English please?

Re: Hey Full Throttle 525
 

Hey Full Throttle 525
Wow 1,812 views.....I guess your boat is popular! :)

Re: Hey Full Throttle 525
 

LOL 3X' S

Re: Hey Full Throttle 525
 

Dock rocker If you dont care or like to work on a performance boat or dont understand ya got no bisness owning one promise you !!!!!!

Re: Hey Full Throttle 525
 

Okaaaay... that's better. You've managed to get the syntax and grammar more or less correct, but unfortunately the context still leaves a smidge to be desired. As in, what in God's name are you talking about? Note: that applies to both of your most recent posts....