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bert4332 07-05-2011 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 3444728)
Yes and no......one engine was difficult to pull 4900 rpm while the other had no issues....but either wouldnt pull 5200.
I was told the boat needed to have the high pressure fuel filters changed which I havent done yet. (I'm hoping its a simple fix)
It was 90 degrees out, 4 adults loaded with all kinds of weekend stuff, water, beer, pop, wine, on and on and on.
I was too busy watching for boat traffic, the tach, triming, and using the tabs....water was like a washing machine. I dont remember seeing 80 on the speedo but gps recall is showing 82....so I dunno what to think.
Rides pretty darn nice and the a/c at the dock was really nice to have though!

I just swapped the in-line fuel filter, a few things you gotta be careful about. Mallory makes the best ones, see if you can find one, they are on back-order. Go and purchase two flare nut wrenches, if you don't you might strip the nutz, I purchased a Wix 33481, the problem was I couldn't get the flare nuts to seat all the way and it was leaking. So for $40 more I purchase the Merc, what a POS. Be very careful even just tightening snug, you have to have equal pressure with both hands on the wrenches or you will bend the stem at the weld. So I went back to the Wix and used some gas approved thread tape and all is good.

What props are you running? My engine bangs right up to 5900 no problem.

verbi69 07-05-2011 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by bert4332 (Post 3444951)
I just swapped the in-line fuel filter, a few things you gotta be careful about. Mallory makes the best ones, see if you can find one, they are on back-order. Go and purchase two flare nut wrenches, if you don't you might strip the nutz, I purchased a Wix 33481, the problem was I couldn't get the flare nuts to seat all the way and it was leaking. So for $40 more I purchase the Merc, what a POS. Be very careful even just tightening snug, you have to have equal pressure with both hands on the wrenches or you will bend the stem at the weld. So I went back to the Wix and used some gas approved thread tape and all is good.

What props are you running? My engine bangs right up to 5900 no problem.

Bert,

Thanks for the heads up, I have not done this before and I am looking to do it the next couple of days, so any advice or hints is much appreciated.
I'm running 5 blades, cant remember the make at this time though, I think Hydromotives.
The first weekend out I was able to spin the engines to 5200 rpm, but not this time....I wonder how much tab input plays into effect?

bert4332 07-05-2011 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 3444993)
Bert,

Thanks for the heads up, I have not done this before and I am looking to do it the next couple of days, so any advice or hints is much appreciated.
I'm running 5 blades, cant remember the make at this time though, I think Hydromotives.
The first weekend out I was able to spin the engines to 5200 rpm, but not this time....I wonder how much tab input plays into effect?

I would imagine tab placement is huge, This is what I did when I got my Lavey. I tucked the drive down as far as it can go, push the tabs down as far as they go and went out of the hole from there. I brought the tabs up to -1 just down a little in the water, 0 being even with the hull, then I moved my trim settings up from there, as big as the V is on that monster I would imagine both the tabs and trim settings can really have a big impact on digging the bow into the wave. When I got to my sweet spot, boat is balanced nicely, I just experimented by tapping the trim up a tiny bit at a time, and watching my tach at the same time. You'll see your rpm's jump when you trim up too much. Or you can drop the tabs down a lil and keep the trim high and see how the tach reacts. I'm STILL playing with mine, I think it takes one good summer to really learn a boat.

After writing this I realized I'm way over on my RPMs. I 5350 is the limit, I gotta figure out what's up with mine going past that.

Need4SpeedGTCS 07-06-2011 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 3444993)
Bert,

Thanks for the heads up, I have not done this before and I am looking to do it the next couple of days, so any advice or hints is much appreciated.
I'm running 5 blades, cant remember the make at this time though, I think Hydromotives.
The first weekend out I was able to spin the engines to 5200 rpm, but not this time....I wonder how much tab input plays into effect?

Verbi,

I went from 32" five blade hydromotives only pulling 4800 to 30" four blade bravos now hitting 5500 (recommended by whipple) I never had a chance to run WOT but my tech confirmed max rpm. Between the 4 & 5 blade props I found a huge difference to get on plane. The 5 blades would get me out of the water with almost any drive/tab setting; the 4 blades are a really sensitive and blow out easy. Will probably have some work done to these 4 blades.
Anyway, in good water to get on plane you should be able to pull the drives all the way in and drop the tabs about half. As you're coming up start bringing the drives out and tabs up. Get the tabs fully up then tweak the drives to that sweet spot. I run really flat with zero tabs in good water.
Although no top end run had a great weekend, lots of sun and bikinis at the lake! GF has pic's on her camera...will post some soon!
Also, turfed my CD changer and replaced the Sony head unit. went with a Sony Xplod unit again...connectors were identicle so it was 'plug & play'. New Xplod unit has a 'tune tray' holds the ipod inside, all my tunes with no CDs or bulky changer taking up space!:drink:

verbi69 07-06-2011 09:00 PM

I am totally impressed on how easy the boat gets on plane with the 5 blades.....very quick out of the hole with some tab.
Lifting the tabs all the way up I can feel the nose of the boat free up, these things do ride flat though.
It seems that the boat really likes to have a lot of trim.....like I'm talking maxing trim (without using the trailer).
Need4Speed,
How did the new power feel otherwise??
I havent tried the 4 blades yet, but I do intend on trying them

Need4SpeedGTCS 07-07-2011 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 3446521)
I am totally impressed on how easy the boat gets on plane with the 5 blades.....very quick out of the hole with some tab.
Lifting the tabs all the way up I can feel the nose of the boat free up, these things do ride flat though.
It seems that the boat really likes to have a lot of trim.....like I'm talking maxing trim (without using the trailer).
Need4Speed,
How did the new power feel otherwise??
I havent tried the 4 blades yet, but I do intend on trying them

There was such a difference coming out of the hole (blow out) with the props that it was hard to tell how the engines were running. The did purr along fantastic but just never got to run wide open; never even saw the boost gauges move. Will probably have these props cupped or go back to 5 blades with different pitch.

Knot 4 Me 07-07-2011 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 3446521)
I am totally impressed on how easy the boat gets on plane with the 5 blades.....very quick out of the hole with some tab.
Lifting the tabs all the way up I can feel the nose of the boat free up, these things do ride flat though.
It seems that the boat really likes to have a lot of trim.....like I'm talking maxing trim (without using the trailer).
Need4Speed,
How did the new power feel otherwise??
I havent tried the 4 blades yet, but I do intend on trying them

What 5-blades are you running? If they are Maximus you can cut the diffusers off to help eliminate some of the stern lift. 4 blades with a lot of cup will help carry the bow. Then lab them to get the RPM back you will lose with the extra cup.

verbi69 07-07-2011 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 3447089)
What 5-blades are you running? If they are Maximus you can cut the diffusers off to help eliminate some of the stern lift. 4 blades with a lot of cup will help carry the bow. Then lab them to get the RPM back you will lose with the extra cup.

The 5 blades that I am running are the Hydromotives.
Cutting the diffuser will plant the rear neading less trim I'm guessing?
Sounds like a good idea to do the cupping and lab work on the 4 blades. :drink:

Powerful Addiction 07-07-2011 08:44 PM

Verbi,

Remember what I told you about the 5-blades. They were built for cruising efficiency and not top speed. The four blades are the speed props and they have already been tuned / cupped to get that boat at top speed. You will need the trim at almost 8 on the gauge and the tabs set at 2.5 on the gauge ( flat with the boat bottom ). If the water is a washing machine that is what the boat loves most and if you have that condition again you will have no issues topping 85 mph with 4 people and full of fuel running the 4 blades. The five blades were made to get the ass our of the water already so any adjustments will make it worse. The high pressure filters are two seasons old - it will help to change them.

Tim

verbi69 07-08-2011 06:59 AM

Tim,
I have no desire to touch the 5 blades, they work really nice pulling the boat out of the water, you did a nice job setting them up.
I wasn't aware the 4 blades were worked over, that is really good to know.
How different does the boat get on plane with the 4 blades compared to the 5 blades?

AJ POWERPLAY 07-08-2011 07:23 AM

Tim, I didn't realize it but my good buddy Jeff has your old 340, he's just down the dock from me. The boat is still immaculate, looks like it just came off the showroom!

THE 288 KID 07-08-2011 02:23 PM


Originally Posted by ajfisher (Post 3447500)
Tim, I didn't realize it but my good buddy Jeff has your old 340, he's just down the dock from me. The boat is still immaculate, looks like it just came off the showroom!

Better than new!:bsflag:

AJ POWERPLAY 07-08-2011 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by THE 288 KID (Post 3447751)
Better than new!:bsflag:

One of the few boats that I actually would classify as close to new as you could get

verbi69 07-08-2011 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by THE 288 KID (Post 3447751)
Better than new!:bsflag:

Sounds like a Sunny add....lol!!

Powerful Addiction 07-10-2011 07:36 PM

Ajfisher

I am glad to hear that. That was and sounds like still is a great boat. Tell Jeff and his wife we said hi the next time you see him.

Tim

Powerful Addiction 07-10-2011 07:42 PM

Verbi,

You will need to feather the throttles to get her on plane with the 4-blades or they will blow out. You will see some finishing marks I had put out on the trailing edge of the props to help with that, but they still blow out if you mash the throttles. I would give them about half throttle with 5 or 6 on the trim gauge and then back off the throttles as she came up on plane. You will like the four blades and if you look they are a 32 pitch prop and the 5 blade hydro's started out as 28 pitch.

Thanks,

Tim

verbi69 07-10-2011 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by Powerful Addiction (Post 3448809)
Verbi,

You will need to feather the throttles to get her on plane with the 4-blades or they will blow out. You will see some finishing marks I had put out on the trailing edge of the props to help with that, but they still blow out if you mash the throttles. I would give them about half throttle with 5 or 6 on the trim gauge and then back off the throttles as she came up on plane. You will like the four blades and if you look they are a 32 pitch prop and the 5 blade hydro's started out as 28 pitch.

Thanks,

Tim

Tim,
I will definately give the 4 blades a try at some point in the near future, but I sure do like the way the boat comes on plane with the 5 blades!!
I did notice the finishing marks on the trailing edges, but the props are stamped 30.....

Need4SpeedGTCS 07-10-2011 10:40 PM

You will need to feather the throttles to get her on plane with the 4-blades or they will blow out. You will see some finishing marks I had put out on the trailing edge of the props to help with that, but they still blow out if you mash the throttles. I would give them about half throttle with 5 or 6 on the trim gauge and then back off the throttles as she came up on plane.

+++1


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 3448838)
Tim,
I will definately give the 4 blades a try at some point in the near future, but I sure do like the way the boat comes on plane with the 5 blades!!
I did notice the finishing marks on the trailing edges, but the props are stamped 30.....

Verbi,

My 4 blades are 30 and 5 blades hydro's are 32...4 blades work like Tim mentions above & 5 blades were not hitting max rpm but never blew out.

verbi69 07-11-2011 03:00 PM

Thanks for the info on the props guys!!

AJ POWERPLAY 07-11-2011 05:21 PM

Need4SpeedGTCS what kind of numbers are you seeing with each? And what were the final HP numbers after rebuild/mods?? Still no pics?! :p

Need4SpeedGTCS 07-11-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ajfisher (Post 3449782)
Need4SpeedGTCS what kind of numbers are you seeing with each? And what were the final HP numbers after rebuild/mods?? Still no pics?! :p

Sorry no performance numbers and no exciting pic's but the GF did shoot some video...just where is it??? Next trip I'll take control of the camera! lol!
Lake still had to much debris to chance doing a speed run.
Yes, that's snow in the mountain tops yet...cool to go up that arm of the lake!

Need4SpeedGTCS 07-11-2011 06:00 PM

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Couple more pic's

Middle picture...check out the beginning of the dock under water and debris (lower left).

AJ POWERPLAY 07-11-2011 08:21 PM

Great lookin countryside! I didn't realize you had a windshield boat I thought performancemary had a fairing boat in the avatar... nice pics!

verbi69 07-11-2011 09:10 PM

Question for the wizards...
I want to install a tv in the boat and looked for the extra wires that are supposed to be left looped in the boat behind the head but couldn't find them.
How's the best way to wire the tv?
Thanks,

pq man 07-11-2011 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 3450051)
Question for the wizards...
I want to install a tv in the boat and looked for the extra wires that are supposed to be left looped in the boat behind the head but couldn't find them.
How's the best way to wire the tv?
Thanks,

Verbi, 8 in hole saw can always cover with a mirror. LOL

Need4SpeedGTCS 07-11-2011 10:45 PM


Originally Posted by ajfisher (Post 3449990)
Great lookin countryside! I didn't realize you had a windshield boat I thought performancemary had a fairing boat in the avatar... nice pics!

Yes, performancemary had the fairing changed, complete top made and porthole windows installed.

Bimini top and A/C were welcomed...+80F

Need4SpeedGTCS 07-11-2011 11:05 PM

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Couple more pictures....

1. Waterfall out of the mountain...
2. 300' deep; small boat close to shore is still in 200' of water...
3. Playboy Bunny cut into Mountain?

verbi69 07-12-2011 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by pq man (Post 3450067)
Verbi, 8 in hole saw can always cover with a mirror. LOL

Never thought of that Jeff....i was thinking more on the lines of a hammer!!

boatnt 07-12-2011 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 3450314)
Never thought of that Jeff....i was thinking more on the lines of a hammer!!

thats funny!

AJ POWERPLAY 07-12-2011 08:51 PM

32 INTEGRITY QUESTIONED!!
Powerplay Jay how could you?! To say that a 33 PowerPlay rides better than a 32 Dominator on sunsations site?! God before you know it Joe will send out the hounds and create a whole separate thread to bash you!!

LOL
(sarcasm for those with dry senses of humor:p)

boatnt 07-12-2011 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by ajfisher (Post 3451091)
32 INTEGRITY QUESTIONED!!
Powerplay Jay how could you?! To say that a 33 PowerPlay rides better than a 32 Dominator on sunsations site?! God before you know it Joe will send out the hounds and create a whole separate thread to bash you!!

LOL
(sarcasm for those with dry senses of humor:p)


though you were banned!!!!:lolhit:

verbi69 07-12-2011 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by Need4SpeedGTCS (Post 3450177)
Couple more pictures....

1. Waterfall out of the mountain...
2. 300' deep; small boat close to shore is still in 200' of water...
3. Playboy Bunny cut into Mountain?

Those mountains must be some impressive in person!!

verbi69 07-12-2011 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by boatnt (Post 3451125)
though you were banned!!!!:lolhit:

If not he sure will be now that he let the cat out of the bag....:grinser010:

AJ POWERPLAY 07-12-2011 10:17 PM

I just can't post, I can still see... I just thought it was hilarious:D

THE 288 KID 07-13-2011 04:07 AM

Any of you ding dongs got anytime in a 33 scarab avs? Heard they ride like poop but I'm looking into one currently. Can't afford any of the sunnys I want!

AJ POWERPLAY 07-13-2011 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by THE 288 KID (Post 3451292)
Any of you ding dongs got anytime in a 33 scarab avs? Heard they ride like poop but I'm looking into one currently. Can't afford any of the sunnys I want!

Don't worry buddy at the price they are asking they will still be for sale when you CAN afford them haha
Who wants a 32 sunny when you can have a Cig Gladiator with 525's for the same money :lolhit::lolhit:

boatnt 07-13-2011 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by ajfisher (Post 3451307)
Don't worry buddy at the price they are asking they will still be for sale when you CAN afford them haha
Who wants a 32 sunny when you can have a Cig Gladiator with 525's for the same money :lolhit::lolhit:

I can see the love you have for those boats!!!:eek:

boatnt 07-13-2011 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by THE 288 KID (Post 3451292)
Any of you ding dongs got anytime in a 33 scarab avs? Heard they ride like poop but I'm looking into one currently. Can't afford any of the sunnys I want!

Just buy a PQ and get over with!!!!!!!!! you know you wont be happy till you do!!!!!

PROWRENCH 07-13-2011 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by boatnt (Post 3451499)
Just buy a PQ and get over with!!!!!!!!! you know you wont be happy till you do!!!!!

For sure 288. Sweet deal on a 38 in classifieds on here in harrison twp.

Need4SpeedGTCS 07-13-2011 06:49 PM

I really think that it's Mr. Fisher that should be in a 380!!! Champion for the PQ brand in the flagship model!:drink:!


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