I disagree with the whole "value" discussion... let's not turn into sunsation guys that think their boat is worth more AFTER it rolls off the lot... lol. I got a good buy on my 290 last spring, have put near 8 grand into it since then but on things that i WANTED not NEEDED... which do not really add much to the value of the boat. People need to realize that you do not get a return on your investment in "extra stuff". Also... a few funny terms I've been hearing lately... 'better than new condition'... 'owner was meticulous'... 'ive seen boats half as nice go for way more money' (no what you see is those owners ASKING for that price, and theyll own it till they die if they dont come off it)... etc... a boat being in excellent condition certainly helps you be in the higher end of the resale spectrum, but does not mean you charge only 30 grand off what the cost of the boat was new... lol.
Let's be realistic and make it so these boats can move... no one is going to 'take your word for it' and fork out an extra 10-20k bc u polished it more than the next guy. Just my .02:drink:

Now there is a TRUE statement.

Ya like it was maintain with an open check book... who has ever looked at a check book!!!:evilb: it is in the red!!!

Aj, I agree with you the wanted list will never get anything back in return, but the "like new" condition boat will sell a hell of a lot faster than a neglected left in the sun boat.....
Personally if I looked at two identical boats and one looked better than the other, the shiny one is getting my check.
Elbow grease can go a long way, but has its limits.
There have been tremendous amounts of boats that have been on the market for serious lengths of time, and that is for all makes of boats.
I agree with you that sellers need to be reallistic.
I would rather sell my boat for 10-15K less and move on to the next venture as opose to marry it.

The value I was referring to was the NEEDS and not the WANTS. Just as you said... there is going to be a limit to the "high end" of the resale spectrum if you ever expect to sell.

H Everyone,

I own the $70K 380 in the classifieds. I've had it on the market since 2008. Despite my best efforts to have it be the most attractively priced boat in it's class, and many many individuals telling me they were coming to get it over that time only to not show up, I've only actually had one person come to see the boat since I first listed it. I think where the boat is located is as big or even bigger factor then price. There isn't much of a market for high-performance offshore boats in Birmingham, AL! :)

Just to clear up a couple of earlier posts, the boat has been put into salt water maybe 7 or 8 times (2 poker runs included) in it's life and washed and flushed after every use. You sure couldn't tell it has ever been in salt water by looking at it. For over half of it's life it has been kept indoors, and was used on a freshwater lake for all but one summer (2008) when I took it to the coast but hardly used it because I bought another boat that year. Yes, it is 10 years old, but if you added together every nick and scratch that is on it I bet it wouldn't cover two square inches. It really is in great shape. The vinyl is where it shows most of its age, being white, but even that is in pretty good shape. The trailer is the weak link from being backed into salt water, and is due for a blast and paint. I thought I had lowered the price enough for any prospective buyer simply to replace it with a new one in either steel or aluminum, but obviously no luck selling it as of yet.

What do you guys think it would take to find a new home for it? I hate to see it sitting unused, but so far have not been able to figure out the right solution and I can't manage to use two boats at once!

Robert

Wish I could take it off your hands Robert, but still have my boat and not exactly the selling season here in Michigan

From day one I never considered a boat "an investment." It's an "pleasure COST." We are basically paying for the pleasure of being on the water. At least in my case, I do not want to stretch myself thin on a boat payment that has everything contained. Even though it's probably the smartest choice of the two. If I save enough $$$ for upgrades and I'm comfortable that I can "blow it on the boat" than I will. If I'm already paying for a boat that already contains the upgrades in a big payment, and something goes wrong with a necessity, let's say a new roof on my house, then I'm screwed.

I realize I'm in a "hobby" that perhaps my wallet can't keep up, but I love it. Additionally, I'm the type of person that if I had a boat with everything I've always wanted, then I'd would have a hard time enjoying it, because I'm always chasing a way to upgrade. Maybe I'm in minority, but this the way my head rationalizes making a monthly payment with part of my kids college education $$$ that is currently sitting on a trailer!

verbi, are you stuck on PQ? My '08 37 AT is for sale in your price range. All the bells and whistles, beautiful stand up cabin and head, 525 efi's, and an unbelievable ride quality. 88.2 is my personal best on stock Bravos. Running stock 5 blade Hydros now. Stored indoors 24/7 and meticulously maintained. Only 112 hours. And I own the title.

I'm motivated to sell as I'm ready for something completely different.

Shoot me a PM if you would like more info.

Macklin, now what are you going to get? AT is a very nice boat and a good ride, I am sure you wont have any issues selling it. From what I remember of your PQ is was in awsome shape as well when you traded it.

That AT would be a nice ride. If I get back into gofast it would make the short list. Great boat at a good value.

Well, I've been doing the go-fast thing for almost two decades. This boat is a culmination of so many things that made it happen. It is my dream boat and will be somebody else's one day. But I only put 12 hours on her last summer, and that has convinced me it's time to move on. I'm thinking of something more simple, like a center console. A fast one. :cool:

Unlike BillR, who has once again been the first to make this move, I will actually put fishing rods in the rocket launchers. Cause when I was a young lad my Momma taught me how to fish. :grinser010:

Just gotta remember how....:drink:

Macklins AT looks like it rolled out of the factory. Plus the ride is incredible. Someone will get a super nice boat!

Mac, you are having same thoughts I had. I bought the Scarab mid August and put more hours on it than I put on the Cigarette the last full boating season. But fish rods?!? Nope!

Seriously, if anyone wants a new Boat for a "used boat" price; Macklins AT is worth the trip and consideration.

Hah, look at that list of boats. I can beat that. Remember the all wood '58 Barbour with the Johnson 40? Was a real treat when Dad let me take that out. Definitely a move up from the 12' MFG's we had as kids. :coolcowboy:

I loved going out in that boat. Felt like a rocketship compared to our MFG's.

PM sent, thanks

If I was in the market I would also look at this one,
theres a reason why they have a #1 on the side

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o32927-en.html

come on tom! WHY on EARTH would you pay 160k for a 38 Top Gun when you can buy a 32 XRT Sunsation for 190k??!! I mean come on, an extra 30k is a SMALL price to pay considering you can call the factory and talk to the owner if you want to! Plus who wants blue motors? 32 with black power > 38 with blue power... :D

That is a beautifull boat!!

Verbi

Well,did you get the boat?

Nope, 170K is not for me.

Where's the fridge and washroom???:grinser010:

In the Yacht club at the other end if the dock...LOL

Hey Verbie, looks like things started to get a little heated in the other forum. Do I ask or is it a subject to be left alone? Seems like the cold weather is making people a little goofy...

Which forum? I need in on these things

Are talking about our baja boy??
If so nothing but a little ignorant fella that just loves to shoot off at the mouth and insult everyone. Comes across as a know it all but always looking for help, and very quick to tell everyone off.

Just remember the christmas party aj........... We need to be problem solvers not problem makers.....:drink:

Hey its not my fault once I said I had a Powerquest the chicks came runnin...

Yep!
thats when the drinking fun starts

ALL you people need to stop worrying about drinking it only leads to trouble and people who can't back it up.:ernaehrung004:

Oh come on... Fred was gona back it up but everyone was holding him back... Calvin is a lucky man!

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Hey verbi I take it all 5 foot 7 inches of you is a little pissed off huh? I better watch out your very bad behind that keyboard! Nice to see you back sounds like your very happy to see me too

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And secondly if you come across as ignorant your gonna get it back, just like you are always crying..... I have no beef with you unless you want one.
Do everyone a favor and start practising what you preach about manners and be a little more polite...
Hows your 540 build comming along by the way?
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Verbi wtf?
I thought I was the only one that caused trouble,that is if you dont count Ajfisher.

Ohhh yah!!

Verbi wtf?
I thought I was the only one that caused trouble,that is if you dont count Ajfisher.[/QUOTE]


Well what can I say...

Natural scrapper by instinct, just my upbringing, years of MMA.:evilb:

There needs to be a few of us...keep up the good work (you two)

Boatnt, I tried following the PQ General Discussion thread but you and Aj have me so screwed up I don't know who Calvin, Tom, Dick and Harry are!!
Can this be spelled out so its easier on my poor head to follow???....please??:lolhit:

Where's all the smoking deals out there that you guys keep talking about??

boatn=Tom
powerqst=Calvin
pqman=Jeff
inkpaper=Denis
ajfisher=aj
kid288=Jordan
pqcrazy=Howard

Tom when it comes to causing trouble lately you might as well leave me out... or else its just a fight for 2nd place :D
Hell even if its not my post people are b!tchin at me... lol.
You see that mock ad over on sunsation? Lol what a bunch of tools... "beat-offs" as you would say haha. Looks like even KID 288 may have had enough, he's scoping a 28 pantera...which would be a great choice anyway bc the 28 pantera is definitely in a different league than the 288 pretender ;) :lolhit:

Life just got simplified, thanks Boatnt- Tom!!:drink:

Now quit causing trouble at the other sites