need advice on 280
 

hello everyone i am going to look at my first performance boat on saturday(2003 powerquest 280 silencer 496 ho with 311 hours)boat all stock with cockpit cover and trailer.my question is if the boat is extreamely clean and in excellent condition what would you offer for a bottom line starting price and whats the max you would pay? thanks everyone and hope this is the last boat i have to ask advice on buying.

it all depends if you really want to buy it or not,,,If you like the boat offer $29.5-$30k and work out a deal from there...or you could listen to others and offer him 20k and see where it goes,,

Thanks for your help.I don't want to offend the owner.had that done to me and it sucks.

Listen to uncle Tom! He buys and sells so many boats that he should have a dealer license :lolhit:

as I said in my previous post...let me know how that 15k offer works out for you:thankyouthankyou:

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The question is ,,,what do you think its worth????your the one writting the check

I would not offer less than 25,000 and would not pay more than 29,000,, thats just me,, I actually prefer the boat with the 502 mag over the 496... if the boat was in great shape
getting it in the range of 25-29 would probably be a good deal.. I would also make him aware that you are looking at other lower priced powerquests. in justifying your lower offer

most people selling their boats, usually know where their competing sales are

good luck..... and make sure it was not a salt boat... although it is a closed system... no salty boats for me

I looked at the one with the 502 last summer.. nice boat but not nice enough for me(I'm picky) and he was stuck on 29k

yea. he sent me some pictures,, the hull sides were a little banged up, in the graphics,, looks like he tried to fix it, but it doesnt look too good,,,

would have offered 25 max

Just got done looking at the boat.its in new condition.guy is insane about cleaning and up keep.kinda bummed though he's not moving much on the price.he's at 34,000 firm

sorry it didnt work out....

what were you thinking of offering???

Low book was 29 so I started there.

If it is super clean and you plan on keeping it for a while maybe it will be worth the money. You could find another one not as clean for 28k and then after a few years have more than 30 into it. God isn't making anymore Powerquests so you might be better off buying the cleanest one you can find...

I would wait a week or 2 and call him and offer to split the difference. Make sure all your financing (if needed) is in order and tell him you are ready to go. Offer a strong deposit contingent on survey.

Cheaper isn't always better. I was wondering why I got such a great deal on my 290, then 2 years later ended up finding out why. $9K later I was back on the water. Hindsight though. Good luck

i honestly dont think i could find a cleaner boat and in top condition.someone made a good point in another post mentioned about powerquest being out of business and down the road very expensive to get parts.

Dude,,,the only thing PQ build is the hull,,,the rest such as Gages,steering,,windshield ,,cabin door,,vinyl,,stainless hardware,,stereo,,hatches,,etc,,YEP ALL still available,,PQ builds the HULL and bought everything else from outside sources,(they did have a upholstery shop but any upholstery shop could repair something down the road0,no different then any other boat manufacture,,,,(with the acception of fountain,,ALL build in house,,:lolhit:kidding)
I know my avatar shows I own a Fountain but I have owned 7 PQs over the last 15 years (one was a 280 with a 500hp) and had been at the factory 35-40 while they were building the ones I ordered new,,and PQ build a solid boat second to NONE..

as far as the 496 not been in production,,,only one reason GM stopped building the big block 8.1l which is what the 496 is,,they are bullet proof engines,,had 2 PQ 300s with twin 496 set ups and the ran strong,,and I know a liitle about engines because I have been a GM Master tech for the last 28 years so I think I know a little of what I am talking about,,well maybe not:lolhit:

as far as the BS on the other thread you started on the general discussion,,,,that is all it is BS!!!!

thank you so much for clearing this up for me.wish the guy would move on the price,im sure its worth it but im not sure if it is over priced and in the future would have trouble with resale.

Well said.

I needed a new transom shower for the Vyper, ITC in Holland..exact same.

I needed a cockpit light, ITC in Holland..exact same.

I added a foot rest for passenger, boat from Toms friend..but available on eBay and also built in Michigan, the company name escapes me.

The point is that they build the hull and buy the rest and assemble.

The 496s are good reliable engines.

As said PQ only made the hull. Any other part is sourced from a vendor and can be found.

oh and forgot to mention it has a bravo x drive with shower

x comes on a 496. Drive shower added on.

Oooooohhhhh,,,you never said anything about a Bravo X drive until now,,,,I would for sure take a pass.....:lolhit:

could you explain a little more?

He was kidding...

I was thinking that bit wasn't sure if they had problems with that drive

So you have been looking for a nice clean turn key boat and not having muck luck right? Now you have found one but are afraid of paying too much? You are also concerned with how much you spend now compared to resale down the road? This will be your first performance boat? Not trying to sound condescending but it is a boat. It is not an investment. You are taking a gamble on resale no matter what you spend. Good boats are worth the money. 5k difference in price could be the difference between having a great time the next few years making great memories with family and friends or becoming bitter and losing interest along with money. Just ask the guy sipping a beer at the marina or the guy with the boat sitting behind the garage with a weathered blue tarp over it...

just kidding...didnt mean to make you nervous...

Very true.....

So it sounds like 34k is still a good price?

I sold my 02 Silencer last spring for $33,000 with a new trailer. I bought it new and it was racked stored. It was in perfect condition,no scratches,interior like new. It had a 496 HO. with a little over 600 hours. It still ran as good as the day I bought it.

That couldn't be more true. You can't get lost over what you think you sell the boat for. Especially if you plan to keep it for a few years. Rarely are you not going to loose money on a boat even if you sell it for what you paid for it after maintenance, title, fees, taxes, etc etc. I think 34 is a great deal if that boat is as clean as it says it is. I just paid that for a 280 a few years older than that knowing that I paid more than I should have, but, it is in better shape than most 2010 boats. The previous owner built his house around the boat and it has never been left outside. There is a huge stack of maintenance records and my marina that did the pre buy inspection said it was one of the most well cared for boats they had ever seen. To me, that was worth spending 5k more than I should have. I like the piece of mind. They really are nothing more than a fiberglass hole in the water in which to happily throw money ;-p

It also helped that the boat was only 2 hours from home which was also a factor in the price for me as it wouldn't cost anything to go get it or have it shipped.

Well I can definitely back up Tom saying he is a master tech (mechanic) I have been to the shop and their is a wall of plaques with his name all over the place :lolhit: But all kidding aside he is absolutely right !

Is your a$$ jealous of all the $hit that comes out of your mouth???

here you go,,,you can buy it back if you would like with only 500 hours and for only 45k.:rolleyes::rolleyes:



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That might be a fair price, but a good price is up to you and how much you are willing to pay to get the boat that you want and not just a good deal.
I sold my '03 260 PQ 2 years ago ($33,000) to a first time performance boat buyer and I think he had the same reserves that you may be having about Powerquest and the market. He put it up for sale later on that year, so I called him and asked if he was having problems with the boat or maybe buyer's remorse. He said he was just seeing if there was a market demand for it. I even offered to buy it back as it was getting harder to find a clean, low hour, well maintained PQ.
I did find another one though last year, an '04 260 for $34,000. I feel I got a good deal since it's the boat that I wanted.
Again, good luck and maybe look at a few more boats for comparison to make yourself feel better about what you may be buying.

i am pretty sure its prob the best i could get for my money.just wqnted to make sure i couldnt get more boat for the money.plus after a few years i may want to upgrade and not want to be upside down on the loan.

The problem is that there are not that many PQ for sale....then the ones that are what type of condition are they? Once factoring this in....you are limited on selection.

Take another example. I wanted a one ton dually to pull my Vyper. Had to be a Lariat, had to be 4x4, had to have shift on the fly, heated seats, center console, less than 50K on it, and an 06 or 07. The last requirment was all white....well couldnt find an all white so settled on a two tone white with beige lower. The point here is that sometimes when you want specific things sacrifices need to be made.

If 4K is the only thing wrong, for me it is an easy decision, wait 2 weeks and call the guy and offer 1500ish less and let him chew on it. 2 weeks after that call him and pay asking price.

Good luck and happy boating!!

Just to clear things up,I'm not just looking at powerquest.also formula and donzi.

i have a few photos if someone can post for me