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MindBLOWER 10-28-2013 02:33 PM

280 Silencer 496 HO?
 
Considering a 280 Silencer w/ a 496HO. Boat has the weekend package(fridge,sink,microwave,potty)
Want to use it for the occasional weekend trip to area poker runs. (watching only)
What kind of speed/Rpms is this boat capable of when propped right?
It currently has a 4 blade 23p REV 4 on it. Seems a little small. Maybe good for planing, but I bet its on the limiter on the big end, not to mention the prop slip I'm told I will experience w/ this hull.

snopro13 10-28-2013 05:34 PM

The 28 I had came with a 24p Bravo. A labbed 26 Bravo will give you more cruise speed.Top speed on mine was 67 maby 68 with ideal conditions.

MindBLOWER 10-30-2013 03:31 PM

Any experience w/ ride quality compared to a Baja 24 Outlaw? That was my last boat. Both have 24deg. hulls right? The 280 appears to be about 1200 lbs heavier.

verbi69 10-30-2013 04:06 PM

The ride in the 28 is awesome!

JWay 10-30-2013 08:04 PM

I have a 502 in mine and I can run a consistent 65 with a 24p bravo1. I've read that going to a 1" or 1.5" spacer can help with the slip but I have not tried it yet. If you have not been on a powerquest do yourself a favor and check it out, you will be impressed with the size and ride quality. There are some on here that are running some good speed numbers with some engine upgrades, maybe they will chime in.

MindBLOWER 10-31-2013 02:02 PM

I went ahead and pulled the trigger on it today pending water test. I've seen the boat and been in it, but haven't rode in it yet. I'm not really concerned about sqeezing every mph out of it on the top end, I was more concerned with finding a good quality boat that rides nice with a good low hour, larger factory power package. After looking at a couple 25 Outlaws and 272's I was pleased with the build quality of the Powerquest.
I'm very anxious and exicted to get this boat in the water and try it out. The step looks cool, but sounds like it may have a good and a bad side. Has anyone seemed to pinpoint or be able to feel a speed when the hull
"breaks free" and starts to cruise more efficiently with less drag?

diggin H20 10-31-2013 10:57 PM

I had a 2000 model with a 454 Mag. The drive had the spacer and with a 24p Bravo 4 blade it was fine unless it was loaded heavy. With 6 people and 100 gallons of gas it had trouble planning. I switched to a 22p Bravo 4 blade and holeshot/plane time was much improved. Had to watch the RPMs but I was not a full throttle kind of guy anyway. Loved the boat. Lots of room for a 28. Spent many nights on it. I added a marine A/C unit to it so sleeping was comfortable!! Good luck and enjoy!!

JWay 11-01-2013 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by MindBLOWER (Post 4019838)
I went ahead and pulled the trigger on it today pending water test. I've seen the boat and been in it, but haven't rode in it yet. I'm not really concerned about sqeezing every mph out of it on the top end, I was more concerned with finding a good quality boat that rides nice with a good low hour, larger factory power package. After looking at a couple 25 Outlaws and 272's I was pleased with the build quality of the Powerquest.
I'm very anxious and exicted to get this boat in the water and try it out. The step looks cool, but sounds like it may have a good and a bad side. Has anyone seemed to pinpoint or be able to feel a speed when the hull
"breaks free" and starts to cruise more efficiently with less drag?

I just got mine this year and the weather sucked most of the summer so I only got to put about 20-25 hrs on her. I can tell you that the boat does not like a lot of trim. I would just trim up slowly and keep an eye on the gps speedo, when you get above where it likes to be you will actually see the speed start to decrease then bump the trim back down and you are in the sweet spot.

jus roamn 11-01-2013 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by MindBLOWER (Post 4019838)
I went ahead and pulled the trigger on it today pending water test. I've seen the boat and been in it, but haven't rode in it yet. I'm not really concerned about sqeezing every mph out of it on the top end, I was more concerned with finding a good quality boat that rides nice with a good low hour, larger factory power package. After looking at a couple 25 Outlaws and 272's I was pleased with the build quality of the Powerquest.
I'm very anxious and exicted to get this boat in the water and try it out. The step looks cool, but sounds like it may have a good and a bad side. Has anyone seemed to pinpoint or be able to feel a speed when the hull
"breaks free" and starts to cruise more efficiently with less drag?

Congrats and good luck with the water test! Welcome to the Powerquest family.

boatrider82 11-03-2013 10:08 AM

You will love it over the baja i think!! I have the 502 turning a 26p bravo 1 prop drop the tabs down before taking off comes out the hole fairly quick!! The main difference you will notice with the step over a regular V is taking curves it wont hook like a v is kinda slides. I find dropping the drive helps this maybe others can explain it better. But all in all awesome boat easy to trailer and dock and the room second to none

specialk 11-03-2013 06:02 PM

Don't tuck the drive and turn. Tucking the drive puts the bow down and transom up and can cause the boat to spin out if there is air already in the step.

boatrider82 11-04-2013 09:26 AM

Makes sense but keep in mind on a river not a wide open lake. I always drop my speed before tucking the drive. If this is not the best way what is?? That's my main complaint about the boat I'm used to a deep V and how they turn.

Josh LaFountain 11-04-2013 09:40 AM


Originally Posted by MindBLOWER (Post 4019838)
I went ahead and pulled the trigger on it today pending water test. I've seen the boat and been in it, but haven't rode in it yet. I'm not really concerned about sqeezing every mph out of it on the top end, I was more concerned with finding a good quality boat that rides nice with a good low hour, larger factory power package. After looking at a couple 25 Outlaws and 272's I was pleased with the build quality of the Powerquest.
I'm very anxious and exicted to get this boat in the water and try it out. The step looks cool, but sounds like it may have a good and a bad side. Has anyone seemed to pinpoint or be able to feel a speed when the hull
"breaks free" and starts to cruise more efficiently with less drag?

Yes you can feel when the hull breaks loose Via the step. it happens about half trim at around 55 mph. My stock 502 Mag mpi ran 67 with a drive spacer. turning a 26p B1 at 5000 rpm. after the 5Lb procharger setup it runs 76-78 with a 29p Hydromotive P5 5 blade at 5100. love the ride. and tons of room in the cockpit. IMO one of the best Big Singles out there.

Josh LaFountain 11-04-2013 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by specialk (Post 4021235)
Don't tuck the drive and turn. Tucking the drive puts the bow down and transom up and can cause the boat to spin out if there is air already in the step.

Running upper 70s i always bump the trim down slowly as i slowly pull the throttle back. taking a good 20-30 seconds to get down to crusing speed. "45-50". if you trim down hard and jerk the throttle back it is possible to spin one out. and NEVER take a turn at speed while trimed up in a step hull boat.. You will die.LOL,

boatrider82 11-04-2013 10:16 AM

Same thing I do bump the trim and slow down.

boatnt 11-04-2013 12:59 PM

you do not want to bump the drive down any lower than neutral while turning on a step bottom boat,,when you do this you bring the bow down and raise the stern,with the step and all the air produced by the step the rear of the boat is loose and the weight of the boat is now in the bow area and thats how step boat boats hook...just saying...

MindBLOWER 11-04-2013 01:02 PM

Thanks for all the info guys. I'm going to run it on the Ohio river on Wednesday. Can't wait. From the sounds of things I will be making a call to BB Blades to try a drive spacer and a 26 Bravo first thing this spring with their demo program.
Anxious to see how it does w/ the stock drive length and the 23p. Rev4 4blade thats on it now. Sounds like I will pickup a higher cruise speed, easier planing, and a few mph on topend w/ a spacer and 26 Bravo. Any suggestions on spacer size? I'm thinking 1.5-2"?
Sounds like some are running a 1" and toying w/ the idea of going lower still.

boatrider82 11-04-2013 01:19 PM

I'm running a 1 inch spacer. Never tried anything any lower. I almost feel like I lost speed with mine. I need to put a gps in the boat and see

Josh LaFountain 11-05-2013 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by MindBLOWER (Post 4021625)
Thanks for all the info guys. I'm going to run it on the Ohio river on Wednesday. Can't wait. From the sounds of things I will be making a call to BB Blades to try a drive spacer and a 26 Bravo first thing this spring with their demo program.
Anxious to see how it does w/ the stock drive length and the 23p. Rev4 4blade thats on it now. Sounds like I will pickup a higher cruise speed, easier planing, and a few mph on topend w/ a spacer and 26 Bravo. Any suggestions on spacer size? I'm thinking 1.5-2"?
Sounds like some are running a 1" and toying w/ the idea of going lower still.

What part of the Ohio you go to? I put in a Duffys in Jeffersonville and boat Louisville to up river.

Mentalpause 11-06-2013 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by boatnt (Post 4021623)
you do not want to bump the drive down any lower than neutral while turning on a step bottom boat,,when you do this you bring the bow down and raise the stern,with the step and all the air produced by the step the rear of the boat is loose and the weight of the boat is now in the bow area and thats how step boat boats hook...just saying...

+1.

PQ260SX 11-06-2013 03:26 PM

Well? :popcorn:

MindBLOWER 11-06-2013 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by Josh LaFountain (Post 4022473)
What part of the Ohio you go to? I put in a Duffys in Jeffersonville and boat Louisville to up river.

I don't boat on the Ohio, the boat just happens to be located at a dealer on the river. Just got home from the test run. Boat definately needs a larger prop.
Was owned since new by an older guy who just slowly cruised around. W/ the 23p Rev4 prop I was turning 4,000 rpms @ 30mph and only topped out @ 56mph
Going back down th pickup the boat next week and already have a 26p Bravo ordered. ( The Rev4 is only 14.625 diameter compared to 15.25 on the Bravo)
I was not pleased with the performance of the boat w/ the current prop, but I know it will be way better next time I run it.

MindBLOWER 11-06-2013 07:24 PM

http://i1145.photobucket.com/albums/...psd09adf0f.png

Here is a pic of the new toy. 02 280 Silencer - 496 HO / Bravo 1x. 199.8 hrs w/ weekender package.

PQ260SX 11-06-2013 07:47 PM

Congrats! Great looking boat, welcome to the family!

MINK 11-06-2013 09:05 PM

Awesome looking boat, enjoy!

AJ POWERPLAY 11-06-2013 09:34 PM

Always liked those graphics... But i could be partial........ :D

pqjack 11-07-2013 07:21 AM

nice boat....welcome to the PQ family

DanG28 11-07-2013 04:49 PM

Sick boat. Love it.

Josh LaFountain 11-07-2013 05:51 PM

super clean ride. I notice it says port of louisville KY. Ive never seen another 280 down there. thats my swimmin hole. what dealer did you buy it from?

JWay 11-07-2013 07:22 PM

Boat looks great!! Congrats on the new purchase.

MindBLOWER 11-07-2013 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by Josh LaFountain (Post 4023336)
super clean ride. I notice it says port of louisville KY. Ive never seen another 280 down there. thats my swimmin hole. what dealer did you buy it from?

Ya, it is a super clean boat, Mint in fact. 1 owner boat bought new from Admirals Landing.
I bought it on a Consignment deal from Marine Sales and Service Guy only put 20 hrs on it since 09, so you wouldn't have had a good chance of spotting it.

PROWRENCH 11-08-2013 07:12 AM

Congrats, you will love it......until you want a bigger one!

Josh LaFountain 11-11-2013 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by MindBLOWER (Post 4023455)
Ya, it is a super clean boat, Mint in fact. 1 owner boat bought new from Admirals Landing.
I bought it on a Consignment deal from Marine Sales and Service Guy only put 20 hrs on it since 09, so you wouldn't have had a good chance of spotting it.

Yes i know where that is. drive past it all the time.and it was bought from "admirals anchor" thats in jeffersonville on the Indiana side. "my side" lol A good friend of mine is the service manager there. I also boat with steve webb. he is the owner of Admirals Anchor. They were the only PQ dealer around.they also sold baja and checkmate. small world. welcome to the PQ family. youll find all the info you need here. where will you be boating at? monroe possibly? geist and brookville are a little small for a 28.

MindBLOWER 11-11-2013 10:06 AM


Originally Posted by Josh LaFountain (Post 4024890)
Yes i know where that is. drive past it all the time.and it was bought from "admirals anchor" thats in jeffersonville on the Indiana side. "my side" lol A good friend of mine is the service manager there. I also boat with steve webb. he is the owner of Admirals Anchor. They were the only PQ dealer around.they also sold baja and checkmate. small world. welcome to the PQ family. youll find all the info you need here. where will you be boating at? monroe possibly? geist and brookville are a little small for a 28.

Usually go to Cumberland for the Thunder run and again for the Poker run, Dale Hollow and Monroe a few times, Wawassee too, but between trips It'll be on the small Morse Lake on the weekends which is a stones throw away. Maybe I'll see ya around.

Josh LaFountain 11-11-2013 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by MindBLOWER (Post 4024941)
Usually go to Cumberland for the Thunder run and again for the Poker run, Dale Hollow and Monroe a few times, Wawassee too, but between trips It'll be on the small Morse Lake on the weekends which is a stones throw away. Maybe I'll see ya around.

Sounds good. I do both poker runs at cumberland also. Mainly boat the river at louisville. i hit up monroe and patoka a few times a year also.

MindBLOWER 11-21-2013 01:30 PM

Good news made my day!
I was told by the consigning dealer that the owner didn't have the factory bimini top or the cockpit carpet. After a few weeks of screwing around w/ negotiations and water test I finally bought it. Then I got a call from the dealer saying the original owner just dropped off the bimini and carpet :) He had never used either one. The bimini we may use if rafting up for long periods, but I'm not sure about the carpet. Never had a boat that didn't have factory fixed carpet and was kinda looking forward to the easy clean of the bare FG floor.

boatrider82 11-30-2013 11:16 AM

If you want to sell the carpet let me know.

MindBLOWER 12-02-2013 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by boatrider82 (Post 4034532)
If you want to sell the carpet let me know.

Think I will keep the carpet for special occasions when I wear my dockers, polo shirt and sperry's. :)

verbi69 12-02-2013 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by boatnt (Post 4021623)
you do not want to bump the drive down any lower than neutral while turning on a step bottom boat,,when you do this you bring the bow down and raise the stern,with the step and all the air produced by the step the rear of the boat is loose and the weight of the boat is now in the bow area and thats how step boat boats hook...just saying...

This is gospel!

I can crank the wheel hard in my 38 at high speeds and the boat carves like it is on rails.
Just keep the power on and the nose up.

Welcome to the family!

boatnt 12-02-2013 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by verbi69 (Post 4035624)
This is gospel!

I can crank the wheel hard in my 38 at high speeds and the boat carves like it is on rails.
Just keep the power on and the nose up.

Welcome to the family!

Yep

if the nose is up that means that your drives are NOT tucked in and the weight is in the back of the boat were it should be on a step bottom boat while turning,,,
if the nose was down then your drives are tucked in and the weight is in the front and the stern is light and that is what causes them to hook and spin out...

think we are on the same page,,,,


have you found your next boat???


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