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Old 02-20-2025 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 87MirageIntruder
Being that Hill and Cutting Edge are a few blocks from each other it's my speculation that they are using the same foundry. The props look like the same castings, but the finish work is obviously different. Auggie at Cutting Edge custom finishes each prop for the customer's application, while Hill has props on the shelf to sell. (obviously Hill can do custom work too)
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Are Signature props cast in the US? Hill doesn't say and Signature's website is still "under construction".Not that it REALLY matters. Just curious...

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Old 02-20-2025 | 03:20 PM
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Both companies say 100% built in the US from virgin stainless. When you have the 2 side by side, I'd swear they are using the same molds. Wouldn't surprise me if Cutting Edge is buying castings from Hill or vice versa. Somewhere I heard their 4 blade bravo copies are a casting copy from the early bravo one propellers. I think the newer Mercury propellers have some differences in the webbing between the hub and the outer wall, to aid in engine exhaust exiting.
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Old 02-20-2025 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 87MirageIntruder
Both companies say 100% built in the US from virgin stainless. When you have the 2 side by side, I'd swear they are using the same molds. Wouldn't surprise me if Cutting Edge is buying castings from Hill or vice versa. Somewhere I heard their 4 blade bravo copies are a casting copy from the early bravo one propellers. I think the newer Mercury propellers have some differences in the webbing between the hub and the outer wall, to aid in engine exhaust exiting.
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Ah... I didn't see that on the Hill website. All good, then. And you're probably right; same foundry. Hell, they might even combine their orders to get a better QTY break.

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Old 02-21-2025 | 01:10 AM
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It’s funny. I hear/read people poo-pooing Signature props left and right, which is what Hill Marine sells. But I also hear/read plenty of good. I don’t have a dog in the fight, nor am I picking sides one way or the other. It’s just curious how people have such wildly different opinions and experiences with the same products.

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They are inconsistent. That's why.
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Old 02-21-2025 | 03:46 AM
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They are inconsistent. That's why.
how many have you owned?

I have purchased 8 pair hill signature SL4 and one pair of signature 5 blades so far the last couple of years and never had any issues,

so I ask you, do you have any experience with them if you do share it with us

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I have a Signature SL5, a labb Maximus (I do not know by who.) and a Max with 15,25" dia.
The Signature holds the bow better than the other two, you can trim it very high and still have grip, but unfortunately it is too small for my speedboat and accelerates very slowly, and there is also more slip like by other two.
Both Mercury props have better matched blades. Blade angles by the Signature blades deviate much more and end finish is not so good. But I didn't notice this while driving. I don't know, maybe it affects the worse acceleration and more slip, but I don't know enough to evaluate.

If the Signature SL5 had a diameter of at least 15.5", I would buy it, but the one I have has 15", even though it says 15.25".
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Old 02-21-2025 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by boatnt
how many have you owned?

I have purchased 8 pair hill signature SL4 and one pair of signature 5 blades so far the last couple of years and never had any issues,

so I ask you, do you have any experience with them if you do share it with us
I have owned one Hill propeller. It was a custom 4-blade Hoss-style. You could see the differences between the blades with your own eyes.

Over the years, I have used propellers from Mercury (non-Lab and Lab), OMC, Yamaha, Dewald, Spinelli Brothers, Mazco and many others.

Hill is known for inconsistency. If you don't trust me, just Google.

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Old 02-21-2025 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by boatnt
how many have you owned?

I have purchased 8 pair hill signature SL4 and one pair of signature 5 blades so far the last couple of years and never had any issues,

so I ask you, do you have any experience with them if you do share it with us
BoatNT,

Following the convo where it leads, with interest toward why I started it....

You've got experience, specifically with the PQ 280... How do the 5 blades do? Ever tried any Hydromotives? Tom @ Hydromotive is suggesting a P5X. Not sure I want to go the 5 blade route, but it's been suggested by a couple people now....

Otherwise... Bow-lifting, transom-lifting or neurtral? Which does the 280 like? Bravo props generally considered which?

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Old 02-21-2025 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by plavutka
Both Mercury props have better matched blades. Blade angles by the Signature blades deviate much more and end finish is not so good.
That is very much my experience, too.
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Old 02-21-2025 | 07:25 AM
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By the way, there is someone who blue prints Hill propellers. I no longer remember the name, but the result is supposed to be very good.
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